The Group meeting in Telma's Bar

“The Group” from Twilight Princess:  they’re one of the most beloved organizations in the history of the Zelda series, and many people were hoping to see more of them in a future Zelda title.  While that probably isn’t likely unless Twilight Princess gets a direct sequel (which itself probably isn’t likely), perhaps Nintendo is aware of The Group’s fan popularity and gave certain members a subtle reference in Skyward Sword.  Find out if you agree after the jump.

In Skyward Sword, if Link flies over to the little island of Pumpkin Landing, he can enter the quaint bar known as The Lumpy Pumpkin.  Inside that bar are four usual characters:  Kina, Rusta, Keet, and the barkeep, Pumm.  They all bear a subtle similarity to certain members of The Group:  Ashei, Auru, Shad, and the barkeep, Telma, respectively.  Compare the images of the characters, below.

Ashei and Kina

Auru and Rusta

Shad and Keet

Telma and Pumm

Is Kina a reference to Ashei, Rusta a reference to Auru, Keet a reference to Shad, and Pumm a reference to Telma?  After all, in both games, the seperate groups of characters all hang out together in the local pub.  Perhaps Nintendo has added in yet another allusion to a past Zelda title, something that they’ve done a lot with Skyward Sword.  If the images above aren’t enough to help you make your decision, then start up your Wii and head on over to The Lumpy Pumpkin and decide for yourself!  For everyone else, what do you think–is this a subtle reference to The Group, or just wishful thinking?

Source:  Nintendo Everything.
  • Fourth example = mind blown.

  • ChainofTermina

    I always thought Ashei was kinda cute.

  • genjgenj

    "'The Group' from Twilight Princess: they’re one of the most beloved organizations in the history of the Zelda series"


    Now ZU is just making up crap.

    • Zachattack8888

      Seeing as you have a -10 on the rating scale I think it's safe to say that ZU knows what they are talking about. It is Zelda Universe after all…

      • rookie

        Hem hem… make that -20. Personally, I've always loved these guys.

  • Triforce Of Insanity

    It would be easier to compare them if "The Group's" heads were shown in the pictures.

  • Craig

    I do think this was the intention… Although, I wouldn't say they're all direct ancestors. I think Kina and the young guy could definitely be their predecessors… Otherwise I'm not sure but I do believe it was intentional.

  • Scott

    What about the other blonde guy? Colin's dad?

    • Well…there is a character for Rusl, and he happens to be blond…but he only is around during the day and loves to collect bugs. Pipit could pass for Rusl, I suppose, though they're not exactly comparable.

      • YellowHat

        I was leaning more towards Peater for Rusl. But I doubt that these characters are actually allusions to "the group".

  • Gerudude

    I think the "group" at the Lumpy Pumpkin resembles the beatles.

    Pumm = George Harrison obviously
    Keet = John Lennon (without the glasses)
    Rusta = Ringo Starr
    Kina = Paul McCartney ( I even think she's left handed ).

    See, ZU I can make up bullshit too.

    • No Ma'am

      Take all that bologna with you out the door then, good sir. This here's the real deal. It's solid–adamant as Adamantium! Incredulity is ever your ally, old fellow, but do not deny what my eyes see as to be truth, incarnated with the manifestation of insuperability.

    • David

      That could be true because I've heard somewhere that Miyamoto's favourite band is The Beatles, but ask yourself this: Which member of the Beatles is fat, and which one is old and bearded? You'll get the same answer as everyone else.

  • Seems rather far-fetched, but I do see a little resemblance.

  • Ashmic

    i see no resemblance, :

  • AdaMiSt

    Hard to compare faces with chests, but I'll try…

  • CJ

    I believe it. I think they do look vary similar. as for the guys who say it’s crap, if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. unless you can simply say “I don’t agree.” cause people don’t want to talk to or read anything from someone who has nothing but nagative things to say.

    • People, also, don't want to read anything from people who can't spell.

  • Azerik

    I can't have an opinion on this, because I have nothing to compare. I can't see the3 faces of half of them.

    • Azerik

      More really.

  • LinkofAges

    You guys should make a list of all the zelda game references in skyward sword. There are a lot. I think one for every zelda game. I want to see how many I found and how many I missed.

    • There are way too many. That's what happens when you have a series.

  • Jarkes

    It just occurred to me that you guys post everything Zelda Dungeon posts a day or two after they've posted it, though you both always credit the same sources. That's… kind of weird, really.

  • HyruleWeirdo

    Yeah, I was wondering if that was just my computer…

  • Zachattack8888

    Pretty neat! Didn't even notice until I saw this. I thought Kina's hairstyle kinda looked familiar.

  • Ulises

    You really need to update, put the whole character this time, not just a random part of it.

  • I don't think so. While there is a slight resemblance between Auru and Rusta, that's it and it's not much. Comparisons need to go farther than just hairstyle. If Nintendo really wanted to make the Lumpy Pumpkin folk resemble the TP group, they would have done a lot more significant similarities. Like, they would at least have made their personalities more similar.

    I know people would like to have this reference. (I would too). But it clearly is not a reference. Someone must have just been thinking of the L. Pumpkin and Telma's Bar and noticed that one or two people have slight similarities (based on hair color/style).

  • Redwood

    What about Jakamar and Rusl? They kind of look similar.

  • Jarkes

    I love how so many people are saying that ZU is just making this up, yet, as I said, both ZU, Zelda Dungeon, and countless other Zelda fansites got this from another site.

  • Jess

    I think Ashei would kick your butt for that comparison.

  • I can see how Telma and the Inn Keeper could be, and the old men. Other than that I don't really see it.

  • Jean D'eau

    didn't knew these guys were loved by everyone, for me they were only… those guys. I liked Telma though

  • I'm gonna miss the group meetin's… I really hope for a TP sequel.