What’s your take on what’s happening with Liam Neeson right now? I’m not too sure what to think of it yet, so I’m curious what others think~
mm i wrote a thing on this in Discord:
i mean i think there is value in being honest with the fact that this happened etc, the problem is that neeson is smart, but he's not woke
he doesn't know how to broach the subject responsibly and fucked up in telling the story
the fucking point he missed is that those thoughts never exist outside of a vacuum, the same way he was able to acknowledge that growing up in the Troubles was part of his conditioning
he should be able to accept that being a white man with power over black people was/is too
and when people said he is a racist he shoulda said "yes"
it's fucked and i have sought help. because we;re all racists and systems make us like this'
'we need to be honest with our selves to fix it'
'hence i am sharing my story';
I literally just watched sorry to bother you last night and wow that movie was great . Lot to unpack in it but hot damn did I love it
it's on of my favourites from this year for sure
you are wonderful
Aw thank youuuuu♡
Hey, I read your essay about incels and toxic masculinity. I didn't agree with it 100%, but I did agree with most of it. It was a good read and I am glad I can sorta comprehend it better when I see you use it as opposed to some abstract buzz word. Thank you for writing it!
Just wanted to say thanks for response regarding Coco it was s lot of info to dump into my noggin so I’m going to have to read it a few times but I think I get the general gist of it .
any time! it really like just starts to jump into the mess that is mexican/central american identity politics
Hey Lucretia I was wondering if I could get your insight on something because you are a smart dude. I don’t know if you heard but recently there’s been s thing in the news about a white girl wearingva China’s dress for prom and well it’s sparked controversy. That said I firmly believe cultural appropriation is a legitimate issue but with all the noise going from so many people I’d like the opinion of someone who I think is knowledgeable in these matters
i read this
i am drunk rn
i will respond in the morning, i love you, thank you for asking, i am also not chinese to that is a thing but i jhave opinions nevertheless
be with you soon my love
Haha no problem dude looking forward to your thoughts on the matter
So first of all, I ain't Chinese, upfront. So I'm not personally affected but I think that this story needs to be looked at from two perspectives, firstly what would Chinese Americans feel, and what would Chinese people in China feel.
Of course there is diversity of opinion within those two groups, and nothing I say here is prescriptive.
But Chinese Americans have been through so much shit, like exclusionary racial acts, intense racism and discrimination, parody and satire all aimed at them. they are still marginalised and caricatured in many ways in contemporary American society, and severely underrepresented in American media.
Meanwhile Chinese people abroad, I have read that many of them either just don't care or think it is cute and "an achievement" for Chinese culture. And that is a very valid position as well, and one that is kind of ideal? They are the hegemonic cultural force within their space, so they're not defensive about their culture. Where as Chinese Americans are a minority and thus defensive about what is theirs, and I completely understand being pissed off at seeing someone from the oppressor class be able to wear your cultural clothing, and be celebrated for it, when if you did it, you're seen as an outsider for engaging in your culture all the time. In an ideal world, Chinese Americans would not be marginalised, and wouldn't feel the need to be defensive about their culture, in so far as the person using the dress is doing so respectfully and inline with the cultural value the dress holds.
But it's not an ideal world, and personally I think white Americans should respect the wishes of the minorities who are oppressed in some form or another.
Also white people shouldn't automatically assume offence on behalf of people of colour. It is annoying and does the entire anti-racist movement a disservice imo.
Thank you I really appreciate your response and it was more helpful than I expected so super duper major thanks Lucretia! Don’t think there’s much I can say other than I agree what you wrote here but I appreciate it tremendously
Any time, I am really happy that you asked!
just leaving this here
Damn, so smooth.
Hey Lu, we should share Discord handles thumiza#9561
Yeee we can chat on Discord, talk intellectually, and diss people ahaha
Oh shit I was wrong with my handle sorry
we should chat more, I think you're pretty cool.
feelins mutual sugar! Do you use discord?
I do! lysate#0170
To tag Dark Link Reigns, or anyone with a name with more than 2 spaces, you sadly have to type out their full name with the "at" sign, followed by the half quote signs " ' " his name, in full, ended with another half quote sign " ' ". Also, There might be an actual name for the half quote sign... Hah.
Don't know if the following will actually tag him, but if it doesn't, then it will be educational for everyone.
@'Dark Link Reigns'
Hey! Quick check in, apologies for like spamming you. I take a break every so often from the serious discussions section and catch up on it really late haha.
Super late for this, sorry!
I am doing great, bit busy with work and all but can't complain.
How about your self? How goes the informing of Australia of the issues that go on in Venezuela?
Hey, I get why you don't want your name used, just shoot me a message next time and I'll edit it out for you, its no problem.
Thanks a million P!~ I super appreciate you and the team for understanding
It just came to me that I haven't done a proper happy new year pun so... Two weeks late but feliz ano nuevo
(Also hope you've been well^^)
me escribes una pendejada asi otra vez y lo que te voy a dar es sendo coñazo oyo carajito? y que feliz ano, anda mamar gafo!
I want you to know that even though we probably disagree on a lot and I have not had the best interactions with people who share similar views, I am extremely interested in not creating any disdain or tension between us. Deeper understanding of others is far more important than winning a debate.
You already posted that? I am not sure what you're getting at, you disagree with my views and think we are going to clash?
Didn't I delete it from the thread? It was off topic, in my opinion. I clash with most people and I'm working on being less egotistical about it. Burning bridges has left me exiled on an island surrounded by burnt bridges. I am also making my intentions clear preemptively because socio-political discussions evoke strong emotions. Similar arguments I have made on that thread have been accused of being talking points belonging to a specific group. You have been incredibly respectful and not really given me reason to expect a clash.
I swear, I am capable of talking less like a pretentious, lazy robot and more like a...not that.
No you did sorry i didn't see it was deleted before i replied to this, ma bad
I am pretty combative though if I feel I am not being spoken to in good faith or I smell racism/sexism/discriminatory views
How do I smell?
I was reading a news article that had a horrid interface where comments and ads were in your face. I was spammed with this link: icemountainfire.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/men-are-not-broken/ I gave it a brief skim through and thought of you immediately.
Lmao das some spicy shit
Too spicy for me even jajaja though i do get a kick of it if it is satire. If it's for real then lol, they're entitled to their opinion. I gotta take less of a hardline in my own activism
Haha yeah, judging from the person who posted, she sounded very serious because it was for a heated debate int he comments.
>lol did you hover over this thinking i was going to translate this for you? lmao<
This is by a good distance one of the best truespoiler trollings on this forum :b
I was pretty happy with it
What exactly is it do you do Lucretia besides looking handsome with your gorgeous hair and your intelligent ways?
As in my job/real life stuff? jaja
Well I work for an international girls' rights organisation, in their media and youth engagement team, where I specifically handle a group of young activists.
I'm about to finish a Masters in International Relations, where I wrote a thesis on Venezuela, but I specialise in gender and radicalisation theory.
And I run an activist group for Venezuelan Australians here in Australia
How about you?
I am working on my masters in law or LL.M with a paid internship at a law firm with mechanical engineering courses. I am attempting to become a patent lawyer. Gosh, it seems you are doing better work than I am haha. I am just trying to make a quick buck. Its pretty cool that you are studying and pursuing things that are of interest to you.
But this explains a lot of the content of your posts in the serious discussion section. Your posts are alwyas meaningful and eye opening to me. Its actually pretty rad of you dude.
Are there many Venezuelans in Australia?
Hahaha nah, to each their own given their context. I am lucky enough that my parents were always able to deliver for me, so I have the privilege of working in a place like the one I do. Thanks dude! I'm pretty happy with my position in life so far
Gah thanks, I get a lot more hate than praise for my posts around the place, so it's good to hear that hahaha. I am glad you get something from them! I have noticed you like them from time to time!
There's only a small population, about 5000 in total, only 1000 in my city, which is about 4.3 million people. But we're passionate, especially considering what is happening to the country at the moment.
I mainly peruse the SD threads, and well generally most threads on mobile when I am checking my messages on my phone. So I give many things a like that catch my eye, make me laugh, or provide a good point and for many occasions, you have done all of those things.
I am generally not one to "hate" on someone for their beliefs or messages. I try to live by a philosophy where I attempt to understand every different point of view, for the most part haha. (Depends on my attitude) I suppose at times I disagree with you on certain subjects but I wouldn't give you any hate for it lmao.
That type of organization of folk who are passionate about a political cause concerning the events that occurring in Venezuela is amazing, no matter how small although when you reach the thousands, that seems to be pretty big to me haha. I have been in America, and the country I grew up (which I assure you is far away from either South American countries and Australia) for most of my life so I have been pretty ignorant for the most part on situations such as these. I honestly didn't expect that many Venezuelan folk in Australia, thats pretty cool, especially for your cause and beliefs.
The only things I really stood for were the various liberal protests we'd hold in university or BLM marches which are pretty common in my area. However, holding a sign really doesn't do crap for the most part. It seems like you are aiming to do a lot more.
well you are a dude, so you should be sent to the moon forever, if you don't hate me for that then you're either able to understand a joke or a saint.
Its been pretty good so far. We've managed to meet with the foreign minister and a couple of other Senators/MPs to discuss Australia's involvement so it's been pretty good. Before this year the community was very disparate, but given that our families are literally struggling to find food to eat or medicine, it has been a pretty unifying experience.
I'd say that you showing solidarity does a lot more than you'd think! It's unreasonable to expect everyone to work for an NGO, but stepping out to a protest supports marginalised communities a lot.
If I wasn't on my phone and busy right now, I'd unleash my words in SD lol
lol that's like basically the only time i get to post anymore!
Can't you just start another thread about men's issues without the sarcasm?
i'm worried if i do that, that people will *still* derail it into some bullshit about how i am a misandrist. i don't think i am the person to lead that conversation.
Lol SD really is a pisshole.
Well, I'm certainly posting more in Serious Discussion.
i am posting less
Have you seen the movie Lion?
yes! i saw it on a plane. it was so weird to see my city in a movie hahaha
I think it's my favorite movie of the year so far, I was curious to hear what you thought of it
i thought it was really strong, but honestly i watched it and kinda forgot about it. it touches on some really important themes and was a total heart string puller, but yeah i wasn't THAT in love with it.
the party scene though and that house... lmao that is the most like hipster melbourne thing ever. it is EXACTLY like that here.
Yeah a lot of critics describe the buildup at the very end as being emotionally manipulative, and they're not really wrong, but it didn't bother me by that point in the film.
and everything I'm told about Melbourne is that it's supposed to be this hipster bastion - I can't think of any US cities that have the same reputation lol aside from maybe Portland or Austin
sorta. it's a bit of like, a tale of two cities. the yuppies who live in the inner city suburbs, to the north, east and the south are certainly where that reputation comes from, but melbourne is actually huge on a basis of square metres, because very few people live in apartment buildings. everyone wants a house.
so if you drive like, 25km in any direction, or hell just to the west, you see a very different melbourne, one which is much less hip, very multicultural, but also with its pockets of conservativism and lower socio economic areas. It's an interesting place, but that hipster bastion idea is only from the inner city. WHICH IS where most of what melbourne is famous for, is.
Sweden will have a man free festival probably next year. It is official that they are planning one at the very least.
Thought you might want to know.
(Article is in swedish, sorry)
hahaha i saw but unironically the first thing i saw was the male opposition to it
Yeah, well it was only expected really.
jajaj nah it just proves a point that the only time sexism bothers men is when it improves the lives of women
which is why they must be deported
Are you living in Venezuela?
Nah, in Australia
Ahhh came off in SD like you had moved back to Venezuela or something, if I am correct about you originating from that country.
yeah my family still lives there
Bizarre/fascinating theory on a strange political alliance between the early Roman Catholic Church and Aristocratic Widows as the originators of Individualism as a philosophy:
hahah pretty bizarre, but a fun read!
It's also kind of a paradox for me to criticize and deal with bullshit from men, but still technically be attracted to masculine individuals. Like AAAAH sometimes I wish I was just a lesbian lol even though they deal with their own problems. I still absolutely identify as queer, but the experiences I had in San Francsico was like I was drinking coffee my whole life, and then I discovered meth, so now I'm dealing with that, but I gotta focus all my time into getting surgeries. I got a reconstruction surgery recently that was insured. Basically, heart surgery as a baby destroyed an entire inframammary ligament, causing me to have only one real breast for my entire life up until recently. That surgery actually finally happening was crazy.
sounds like a hell of a lot on your plate D:
I love you too, bby.
Hey, thanks for the good luck! ^_^
Good luck on deporting all men! XD
Hahaha, I need to build a rocket so that I can be the first one!
HAHAH, For what its worth, I think you do bring up plenty of valid points in your posts regardless of the style you use to write them(not thati t bothers me I think its hilarious :P.) Honestly, ever since I joined Zu I've learned a lot that I seriously appreciate.
lol I'm here to have fun really, so i am glad someone gets it!
I didn't post in your thread but I honestly wonder if there's something that can be done at the educational level. Something to treat men to be more respectful towards woman AND to teach woman to be more empowered . So like... a feminist class? lol Idk for sure, but I feel like a lot of issues stems from us not being taught al ot of things in school and that includes more social aspects.
i don't blame you, the thread was a piece of shit and it was my fault that it was. anyway, in my own state here in victoria there is such a program that just started and instead of "feminism" they've had to use a less inflammatory word and chosen "gender studies".
but the idea is that they look at how gender impacts the development of BOTH genders and how men need to challenge stereotypes that they are violent sex driven animals and women need to challenge stereotypes that they are passive and demure ladies.
to be honest i was 21 years old when i was told "gender is a social construct" and that was far too late. i should have learnt that at 8 or 7 years old.
for what its worth, i did get the gist of the thread.
but that actually sounds likea great idea! but trying to get something like to pass would probably be met with so much hostility :/
newsflash, ZU: you can't be sexist against men, that's not how sexism works. Goddess, I hate SD. How's it hanging, Luc?
yeah well if they cant understand sarcasm i don't think they will get sexism. to be very honest everything is great in my life except the weather is freezing so i am miserable lol. howre you lys?
I'm great. Weather is super warm here.
Hey guys, just a personal opinion, but sexism can and does indeed go both ways. By definition, sexism refers to a specific type of discrimination, which, in its most basic form, refers to the actions (good or bad) that we carry out as a result of prejudice. I don’t want to argue, as you obviously have your own personal opinions and that’s cool! But just letting you know that there will be people who disagree with you who aren’t necessarily total dicks. Cheers guys.
The poor mens.
nobody asked you. Also, you're wrong.