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  • I was thinking more along the lines of the Naruto vs Kiba match where both Akamaru and Naruto transformed to look like Kiba. Kiba couldn't differentiate the two and hit Akamaru by mistake. But in Sasuke's case, he'll have to use his sharingan to match Naruto's chakra and transform so that Kaguya (if witnessed the transformation) has to be fearful of all shadow clones or else try to keep track of Sasuke among the dozens of Narutos.

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Now if Sasuke can heal Obito like Naruto did, then yeah, they'll be able to navigate Kaguya's realms (until she figures out their tactic and kills Obito).

    Kaguya is worried because her son gave Naruto & Sasuke those two sun and moon seals, her one true weakness (but they must touch her at the same time). Considering Naruto has used the "Naruto Uzumaki Barrage" technique, and she can't differentiate a clone from the real one, I suspect that Sasuke will transform himself into a clone of Naruto, and then mixed with the Naruto Shadow Clones, Sasuke and the real Naruto will both hit her. At least, that would be my tactic in defeating her.

    When it came to Madara, his only weakness was Taijutsu. Plus Kishimoto has always made out female characters to be weaker than their male counterparts.

    According to an online Naruto reviewer, he said that next week's chapter is going to have some sort of surprise. He suspects that it is either going to be the mention of when the series is going to end, or the next Naruto movie.

    And no, Kaguya isn't dead. Black Zetsu used Kaguya's will that created himself and placed it inside Madara. To be honest, I'd rather this be a Madara & Kaguya vs the heroes than Kaguya & Black Zetsu.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Naruto: So apparently the newest chapter came out yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised to see it out this early. Basically it was just a re-cap of what we had already suspected about Naruto's clone death (the real Naruto has bijuu bombs floating around. That's a minor detail a lot of people had missed last chapter). Page 12, Kaguya opened a portal and Sasuke could sense Naruto...was she really that stupid to open a portal to the desert dimension?

    If Naruto learns how to create the Dancing Flying Thunder God seal, THIS would be the opportune moment to do so. Create a seal in every dimension so that wherever Kaguya escapes, he can follow. And whenever Kaguya uses the portal, Sasuke can follow.

    So it seems like all Uchihas have some sort of Space/Time jutsu. Shisui was the fastest body flicker. Obito could open up dimensions. Sasuke can switch places with an object (I suppose he switched places with rocks while fighting Madara earlier...but I don't quite understand the "appearing in a dimension far from myself" bit). I wonder what Space/Time jutsu Madara had.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • No nickname it is! I'm online now so just ask me for a trade.

    Posted by Jackos

  • Ok, any nickname for the Mawile or should I leave it as it is?

    Posted by Jackos

  • Forget her sons, they are her only means of defeat. If the people inside the pods are going to be turned into Zetsus, then the dream genjutsu is meant to make the experience painless. Black Zetsu has recorded a lot since Kaguya's demise, but certainly not everything. I wouldn't be surprised if she gains some knowledge about Naruto and Sasuke through the roots. Heck, just like how Naruto used Talk-no-jutsu, maybe seeing those dreams (particularly, Hinata's dreams) are what's going to change her mind.

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Unless Kaguya is going to suddenly grow a few dozen feet, I think that moment has passed ever since the10tails went inside Obito (then Madara, then Kaguya).

    According to Black Zetsu, Kaguya was once part of the holy tree. According to Madara, nobody touched the holy tree (especially not the fruit). Some prayed to the tree, while the rest just waged war. You're right, she doesn't seem as bloodthirsty as before. Quite possibly because she is more cautious of her sons. Just what has she been doing with all of that chakra?

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Other than the obvious thought (Naruto isn't dead), this fight with Kaguya is sorta reminding me of previous Naruto fights.

    -He's used his Sexy Jutsu on Ebisu before.
    -He's always used Shadow Clones in every battle, but the only time he's created 1000 was against Gaara (and quite possibly Mizuki, Pain, and Kurama)
    -Don't forget when he fought Neji (a Byakugan user, same as Kaguya) he used his "Naruto Uzumaki Combo" attack.
    -Kaguya jumping in and out of dimensional portals is reminiscent to Haku and his Ice Mirrors.
    -While trying to rescue Sasuke, Naruto's first opponent was supposed to be Kimimaro (of the Kaguya Clan), but was quickly replaced by Lee.

    I'm willing to bet we'll see more callbacks to previous Naruto fights as this battle goes on. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Naruto uses a brand new Rasengan jutsu like he did in the Pain battle.

    This whole Shippuuden series is just an extension of Sei's picture book.

    So, what did you think of the chapter?

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Ah, I see. Well luckily I've already managed to catch you online! Thanks.

    Posted by ich Will

  • Now I'm just gonna hope I can catch you online so I can unlock the third slot :P

    Posted by ich Will

  • Thanks.

    Posted by ich Will

  • Sure, I have you added.

    Posted by Justin

  • Hey Justin, just want to ask if you want to add my Pokemon X/Y friend code?
    It's 0018-0098-9501. I've already added you.

    Posted by ich Will

  • Ok, don't worry, send whatever you want since I don't really care for dex filling and I haven't been playing anyways.

    Posted by Jackos

  • I already added you, just add me and ask me for a trade whenever you want, also do you want a nickname for the Chimchar or should I just rename it Infernape (current one is Cesar btw)?

    Posted by Jackos

  • Yeah Shino hasn't done much. He defeated a sound ninja during the preliminaries, he had a tie against Kankuro during Orochimaru's invasion, he encased Obito in bugs, and summoned a large bug to kill one of the White Zetsu creatures during the war. That's it.

    Whom is the strongest (as in lifting a big amount of weights))?
    Giant sized butterfly Chouji
    8th Gate Guy
    Sakura's super strength chakra training?

    If Naruto and Jiraiya had stayed around for those 2.5 years, Kiba should have been excellent.

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Speaking of Kimimaru (someone whom was presumably around Kabuto a lot in Orochimaru's hideouts), why was he never a reanimated corpse? I think Kishimoto forgot about him. I understand the Sound Ninja not being revived (they weren't that special), but Kimimaru seemed to have been more special.

    Kiba could have easily become another rival of Naruto's. Like Sasuke is a rival primarily over Sakura's heart (Sas doesn't care for it, and Naruto thinks he's just throwing it away in Part 1). Kiba could have been more of a physical sparring rival. The fox vs the hound.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • And what about people whom aren't on Team 7? I would have liked to see more of the Konoha kids fight Akatsuki. Shikamaru was the only one whom fought a member (outside of 7) alone. And let's face it, Ino and Chouji did shit against Kakuzu. I would have expected a little more from Shino's fight with "Tobi". Or Kishi could have shown them fight more when Pain invaded Konoha.

    That's why I'm asking about Konan. Random, I know. I would like to think that Sei could take her down, simply for their affinity for art.

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Also page 15: Seems like Naruto has a plan. Make himself look stuck, get them close enough, and attack. Preferably Kaguya would travel by portal because that is what Naruto is interested in.

    I feel like [URL=http://www.mangabird.com/naruto-656?page=16]Obito's thoughts on this page[/URL] is connected to his thoughts [URL=http://www.mangabird.com/naruto-683-lol?page=18]here[/URL]. And also, in chapter 656 he mentions Nagato and Jiraiya, I wonder upon his words of willing to die he ever thought about [URL=http://www.mangabird.com/naruto-510?page=13]Konan[/URL]

    Konan, only female member of Akatsuki (of 12 members). Sakura, only female member that is left to see how the war will end (of 9 members). Temari, only female ninja whom made it to Jonin rank by the beginning of the Shippuuden series (of 15 members*) Tsunade & Mei, the only female Kages (of 22 members). Just an observation that Kishimoto really doesn't give women props in the manga.

    Here's a question I've never asked: Who do you think could defeat Konan? She prepared 600 billion explosion tags specifically for Obito, so we can't take that same number into account if she were to battle in another location.

    -BGS

    *Konoha 12 + 3 Sand ninjas. Granted Neji also became a Jonin, and Gaara did become Kazekage, but neither were women.

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • It certainly will take a team to defeat Kaguya. Considering the 1st and Madara were the previous reincarnations of Asura & Indra (BTW, why the fuck didn't the Sage come to them before they fought? You know, preferably when they were still friends! Why did it have to be Naruto and Sasuke?) when Madara does get revived (come on, it was such an abrupt death, he has to come back), I'm willing to bet we'll see Madara, Sasuke (the two Indras), 1st, and Naruto (the two Asuras), come together and fight to take down Kaguya. The rest will be used for support (Madara and Obito may have some info on how to defeat Black Zetsu).

    We haven't seen the castle yet, however in the previous two dimensions, none of the characters have even mentioned it. I suspect the dark void Kaguya walks into is the space in between dimensions. Obito's left eye has been trained to be used as a distance attack, not like the right eye which focuses on the body. So my guess is, Obito is first going to use Kamui his left eye to target at the opening, and then his right eye to temporarily transport his body to the Kamui dimension and it will slingshot him over to the dark void like a wormhole.

    I think he can be used to come back, and the 2nd will just use the White Swirl Zetsu as sacrifice. If for anything, I'm sure he'd want revenge on Black Zetsu (and Kaguya by association) for betraying him after all these years. And if Madara acts up, the 2nd always has the power to send him back. As you said, I don't see him being redeemed, but just allies long enough to defeat the greater evil/common enemy.

    Just a thought: Now there are two Madara bodies in the world. Kabuto only needed a DNA sample of Madara to revive him. His corpse is still out there somewhere.

    Sasuke saying "Nothing I do..works.." clearly tells us that he's been using jutsu after jutsu trying to get out. I wonder if he's tried the 1st's jutsu...

    As for the Hokages, I'm willing to bet that the 4th will use his Dancing Flying Thunder God seal that he placed on Obito years ago to help transport himself and the other Hokages (and Madara) to his location. To defeat Kaguya, we may see a lot of Space/Time jutsus (be it the 4th's jutsu, Sasuke's new teleportation jutsu, and Obito's Kamui).

    No, I don't think Haguromo is actually alive. He's a spirit (that came out of Madara's crotch lol).

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Either one that gets attacked first, I hope the other will go to the castle. Sasuke could fly there and Naruto could...well if he perfects his hovering, he could quickly levitate there. I think the castle holds a key on how to defeat Kaguya.

    Hmm crazy thought:
    1. If the clone is in a pod (with Rinnigan eyes), and if someone were to kill the clone, would lava dimension clone and the original Naruto also get Rinnigan eyes? Would this empower them or fall to genjutsu of the Moon Eye?
    2. Maybe the Kurama/Sage-mode eyes of his has a way of repelling the Moon Eye. Because other than showing he's using both powers in tandem, what use are those eyes?
    3. Or just poofed away as you said and Naruto knew it was dangerous to go outside while under Sasuke's Susanoo

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • I ran into something I had forgotten: [URL=http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/675/12]Naruto created a Shadow Clone to help immobilize Madara's Shadow Clone[/URL]. Considering the Hokages noticed Madara's rods started disappearing (signifying his death), we can also assume that Madara's Shadow Clone has also disappeared. But it makes me wonder, was Naruto's Shadow Clone able to survive the Moon Eye Plan? If so, he may be able to help the Hokages and relay information back to the original Naruto. If he didn't survive (and his Kurama/Sage eyes don't mean shit against the Moon Eye as we all quite possibly suspect) then nothing has changed.

    And no (before you ask if that's what you were thinking), that isn't the same clone as the one with Kakashi, Obito, and Sakura. We see Naruto create another clone [URL=http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/680/15]here[/URL].

    It would make things interesting if my suspicion is true. One clone in the shinobi world, and another in the lava dimension.

    If I were Sasuke, I'd summon another large hawk and fly to the castle:D :D

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • [url=http://www.mangapanda.com/93-35269-15/naruto/chapter-467.html]Naruto 467 - Read Naruto 467 Online - Page 15[/url]

    Well it has been mentioned that the body resides within the moon. So what if Naruto goes into large 9tails mode, and makes a large bijuu bomb/Rasenshuriken combo (I don't think that's been done before...but it's bound to happen soon considering the Rasengan is just a super condensed ball of chakra. So all of his rasengan training lead to Naruto being able to throw a Bijuu Shuriken) that is thrown at the moon. It leaves a huge crater at the moon, the 10tails' body jumps out (to be honest, I was semi-depressed the one we saw looked like a monster...I was hoping it was going to look more human, like the monster wasn't its final form) and starts attacking Kaguya. Or maybe Kaguya releases the 10tails as a last ditch effort for it to attack Naruto and Sasuke.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Short answer: Yes. Long answer: It would be like the Hokages are sitting in a haystack, but not realizing there is the needle close by. If the Raikage wasn't in a pod, he'd probably be able to recognize it, but since he isn't, it's going to be a little harder unless the 1st or 2nd know about it.

    Ninjas can walk on water, hang upside down on trees, and create lightning out of their fists. Breathing in space, not outside of the fictional possibility. For all we know, Naruto in Kyuubi mode is already vacuum of space-proof. And Sasuke will wear a Susanoo armor.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • We didn't see him create his flying Rasenshuriken (sure we had one panel of the after affects but that's it), so the first thing I was thinking is that he created a new jutsu (and they'd show a flashback him being young that it's true), then I thought about the Multiple Shadowclone jutsu, but the reverse sexy harem jutsu took me by surprise. I didn't expect Kishimoto to harken all the waaay back to Naruto's prankster days.

    2. Death is a permanent solution. One I wouldn't mind in this case. I hope Kishi doesn't pull a DBZ and just make Kaguya young again so that she'd be raised differently. If she is sealed, then Kishi's time showing off the Sage's tools would be useless.

    3. His life powers aren't as fast as a senzu bean, but it'll get you there. I'm still curious about Kakashi's eye and his stamina. Is is stamina greater now that he doesn't have a 24/7 Sharingan always on? I'm sure having that Sharingan for years has trained his chakra to push it to the limit, but now his other jutsu may be that much stronger (or can be used more often).

    5. You're not the only person whom logically thinks this. This just means there are multiple Castles. If all of these locations are of the same realm, then I wonder if the castles are related to Kaguya's jutsu (sorta like Minato's Dancing Flying Thunder God seal). Destroy the castle, destroy the potential of being transported there. But if Sasuke does that, he'd have to walk for a long time (even with his new space/time jutsu) before he discovers where Naruto is located. If Kaguya fights Naruto, I hope Sasuke learns something new at the desert castle (assuming there is one) before he potentially destroys it. Hmm is there a castle on the dark side of the moon?

    It could be time travel. Let's say Sasuke was placed in the past. If he is mentally linked with Naruto, Sasuke could help out by relaying information of anything he finds.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Naruto 682: Funny chapter, but there's still a lot we can learn from it.
    1. Did Naruto and Sasuke have the conversation about "that technique" while the point of view was focusing on "Team Kakashi" or did they go deep in subconscious and had a somewhat telepathic conversation like how Naruto had with the tailed beasts?
    2. Hmm so shadow clones can use the Sage's seal. Instead of punching Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke could have sealed her after the Sexy Reverse Harem no Jutsu (lol).
    3. Shadow Clone Naruto looks a little too happy, what idea has he come up with that involves Obito?
    4. The Sexy Reverse Harem no Jutsu looks like it consists of Kabuto, Juugo, Sai, Suigetsu, and Utakata (the Jinchuuriki of the 6tails). The rest I can't identify. But I love Kaguya's reaction (lol). Classic unpredictable, Naruto!
    5. Ok, from what I've learned about Kaguya's dimensional hopping is that she has a limited range (be it around herself, or around the castle) or else the Hokages would have joined them as well (I mean, if Kaguya could choose whom she brings to the other dimensions, she wouldn't have brought "Team Kakashi" along). Naruto's world could very well be seen as just one of many dimensions. There's Naruto's dimension, the lava dimension, the ice dimension, and the sand dimension. Both the lava and ice dimensions have shown the castle, and I expect there is one in the sand as well. The castle is key. I wouldn't be surprised if there used to be one in Naruto's dimension in the past, but it has long been destroyed since Kaguya has been sealed. So I'm curious if Sasuke and Naruto will destroy the castles.
    6. [strike]What are those things Kaguya is throwing on page 12 and 14? Pieces of Black Zetsu?[/strike] Nevermind, I just realized that those were Naruto's bijuu orbs trying to wiggle a path out of the ice.
    7. I wonder, if Sasuke will be in the dessert waiting, or will he be fighting Kaguya and/or Black Zetsu? If he'll just be waiting (as Naruto fights Kaguya, while Team Kakashi may go up to the castle), I think this will reflect Asura and Indra a lot. Indra fought alone while Asura liked to fight with cooperation.

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • That's no problem - I've seen from the Pokemon thread what your FC is and mine is in that list to. I'll add you shortly (just as an aside, I live in the UK in GMT +1 so we may have to coordinate our being online at the same time).

    Posted by Darth Scorpion

  • Haha thanks! And we can't forget Hashirama gave Sasuke a jutsu (I sorta find it funny how jutsus can be easily learned like Pokemon TMs now...well at least for Sasuke), so that may be put into play. Considering Danzo, Orochimaru, Madara, and Obito were obsessed with Hashirama's DNA & the Sharingan, I wouldn't be surprised if Hashirama gave Sasuke a jutsu that is some sort of sealing jutsu (wood seems to be good to control beasts, so it may be useful against Kaguya). The way I see it, it's a jutsu Hashirama thought it would be of use against Madara, and isn't that enough?

    Obito's next of kin...that sorta reminded me of something: Ok, Obito & Itachi killed everybody in the Uchiha district. That means Obito quite possibly killed his own friends, siblings, and parents (if still alive at that moment). Anyways, yeah Obito may be of use in this battle.
    -He could send himself, Kakashi, and Sakura in the Kamui dimension to be used as a panic emergency room
    -He could use his right eye to send any ninjutsu to the Kamui dimension, and then teleport it out using his left eye (Kakashi's old eye). Basically using his Kamui as a wormhole.
    -Sakura could trade Kakashi's and Obito's left eyes, heal them, and be sent to the Kamui dimension to kill any enemy that comes in or heal any ally (but something tells me Kaguya's recently discovered black door portal won't stop her from going to the Kamui dimension)

    "new Spiral guy"? He's not new. He's been there from the beginning. But anyways, I don't think the White Zetsus are affected. If there are any survivors to the Moon Eye, it will be them + Hokages vs all the White Zetsus.

    The Moon Eye does have its flaws. I'm semi-convinced that the moon will be destroyed and re-made before the series is over. Could Obito Kamui the moon?

    -BGS

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Eh, if anyone deserves a power-up that manifests physically, it should be Sasuke. I still don't see him equal to Naruto's strength. For example, what if Kabuto healing him gave Sasuke the ability to go into Dragon Sage mode?

    Everybody else in the army is in the Genjutsu unless you're placed deep underground and haven't seen the light (like Root for instance...we haven't seen them since the Pain Attack with the "Yamato Works" sign. Nah I don't think the White Zetsus have been compromised. Remember, White Zetsus were still out and about after Old Madara's death and his summoning. They just followed Obito's orders. Spiral Zetsu is still around, that much is true. Maybe the Hokages will get some info from him. As for the remaining Juubi beast...wasn't that in Madara (and Obito was able to steal some and give it to Naruto)? As far as I see it, Kaguya has everything. ..except for all of 8tails. With Bee in genjutsu, maybe 8 can wake him up.

    Hmm that just gave me an idea for a power-up: what if Naruto made Sasuke a jinchuuriki. If Naruto can find a way to sap energy from Kaguya, he can get the other half of the 9tails and give it to him. You want a fusion? How about them going into beast mode, create a large rasengan around the both of them, and when the Rasengan stops, you see a combined Naruto and Sasuke: Naruto's body, Kurama's face, Sasuke's eyes, and it is wearing Susanoo samurai armor with two bijuu balls taken in the form of wings. The Flying Fox!

    Posted by BigGoronSword

  • Well they have performed a sort of fusion of the 9tails and Susanoo...maybe that's the closest thing we'll get to a DBZ Fusion.

    Posted by BigGoronSword