Happy Birthday Foo!
Howdy Foo. I must admit, I'm a fast typer.
come play video games with me stop playing on ZU please now thanks
Ummmm. Hi, me and BackSet are trying to make a mafia like game that is like ace attorney court cases. Since you were a mafia GM I was wondering if you could help us out with it?
Sorry to be a pain about this, but can I ask you to look at your Slack DMs? Just got a question about if a time works for you for this group-watch thing so I can nail down everything for this weekend.
EXPLAIN YOUR SIGNATURE
Lol, I dunno if there's all that much to it.
"In the context of history, referring to any line of philosophical inquiry as 'post-lastgenerationsthing' looks dumb"?
ah lol, i mean i saw Butler and was like "is he saying something obvious, or something obtuse"
Wow it’s Foo the king of card games
Well, ya know. Just trying to keep up with all the tops Zelda players in the world around here...
Just finished a game where evolution is a very important concept to the plot. It manages to never once mention the idea of descent with modification, mutation, inheritance, adaptation...
Just, fellas, when your deuteragonist is named "Dana" because that's kinda like "DNA" then maybe you should know what evolution is.
Yeah, I feel like boxes and I have been having a really rough time recently with media that doesn't pay off on "sciency" themes (or even really understand them). Five or six weak shows/movies/games in a row. Maybe its just a bad year >>
Hehe, I mostly found it amusing. Like, it wasn't trying to be a primer, not even remotely, it just had a "god of evolution", as it were, that...wasn't.
You are a very smart person and a methodical/deliberate thinker. How did you get this way?
Maybe you've seen the research on "growth mindset"?
There's this idea in pedagogy that, whatever actually determines academic/intellectual success, you need to *tell* people that the only thing that matters is hard work. When people believe that there's a genetic or environmental component to their success which is outside of their control they're more likely to become discouraged - believing that they just didn't "luck out" - and so underperform their potential due to bad attitude and "low resiliency".
So you tell everyone that only effort matters. You find clips and quotes from famous people who attribute their success to their grit and not a natural talent (Wayne Gretzky and Albert Einstein are amazing for this). Maybe you suspect in the back of your mind that other factors are important but you never say it out loud.
Scientific analysis suggests this kind of works a little bit (sci-hub.tw/10.1177/0956797617739704) especially for folks who already display signs of low resiliency and so are particularly likely to be effected by statements which imply that that their circumstances are out of their control.
But *political* analysis says this is the greatest idea ever, and we should spend untowards amounts of money promoting it (sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sta…k-pioneer-of-12209833.php). So as a working educational professional, for whom politics has serious implications, I need to pay lip service to this idea and tell you that whatever positive attributes I might display, they exist because I worked so damn hard at them!
But now that we're sufficiently buried in this comment, let's drop the bullshit. I think that I do pretty OK in a lot of intellectual domains, sure, and I appreciate your compliment!
It's because I won a bunch of lotteries.
Usual privilege lotteries sure - I'm white, male, cis/het, neurotypical - but I'm also a January birth and an oldest child, I'm over 6'2'' tall but also relatively low testosterone-producing, I have a naturally very positive affectivity, I'm naturally competitive, I'm naturally fascinated by abstractions, I had a very stable and relatively-affluent childhood home life, etc. etc. When you add up all these factors which correlate positively with adulthood general intelligence I've got a phenomenal head start.
But I don't want to dodge the question entirely. Advantages of birth and circumstance ultimately *pay off* in material ways. Can I point to those?
Sure... but I mean they're all going to seem obvious and straightforward.
I've earned two post-secondary degrees: I learned enormous amounts in the pursuit of both and have done my best to continue to extend my knowledge in the areas I studied through continued private inquiry.
I've historically sought out people trying to develop tools to answer very difficult, very esoteric questions and engaged them regarding their work. This lead me to the aspiring rationalist community and to Bayesianism, which I now consider the core of my intellectual philosophy (zeldauniverse.net/forums/Threa…duction-to-Bayes-Theorem/)
I've tried to engage with as many people as I can who disagree with me, and I try to maintain productive discussion norms when I do. I haven't explicitly avoided echo chambers, but I've tried to balance my time between equal and opposite extreme groups.
I play a lot of games, prioritizing games which give me and my opponents as much intellectual freedom as possible, and have done my best to learn general lessons from high-stakes competitive experiences. The number and quality of life lessons you can access playing internet mafia is flabbergasting.
I've gone through a number of grand, traumatic re-orientations of belief system in my life. If nothing else, this has made me more wary of everything I think and feel and more concerned about being accountable to the exact content of my current claims.
So... *shrug*. That can probably all be summed up as "I try to be accountable to my opportunities" which is really all anyone can do. Hope it's an OKish response.
Very good response; compliment someone on being thorough, expect a thorough answer. Bayesianism is the kernal of method that I was searching for, and the nod at learned skepticism is illuminating too. What are your advanced degrees in (if you don’t mind the query)?
Math and Education.
My first degree is technically a BSc with a double major in math and the physical sciences, but really it's a degree in mathematical modelling. I just ended up taking enough computational methods and modelling courses from various science departments that I qualified for a second major, despite the fact that I never set foot in an actual wet lab in my junior or senior years
The second is a post-Bachelors in education, with focus on the construction of mathematical knowledge in adolescents.
Man reading your commentary on mana drops reminds me how non-competitive my decks are. I love high drop creatures and slow decks with a lot of development XD
Congrats on all fronts Foo!
Haha thanks! The gwent stuff is nice but holy cow it's a relief to get an interview. I've been beating my head against the wall for soooo long >>
Yeah, I can only imagine. Domestic job hunt is already one of the most painful processes ever created, I can only imagine doing so abroad. @_@ Wishing you the best of luck!!
pretty interesting read into how the system is being set up
any chance you'd consider picking it up again after a few huge updates (or if it ever leaves beta lmao)?
I will miss your commentary v_v
Quite possibly! I still want to round out my tour of the popular digital CCGs and then go back and finish some stuff in the other games I've already played. Then WotC has a new digital offering going to open beta this year and Valve either later this or early next. Lots to do.
Going through them all has been a really cool project and it feels like I'm learning quite a bit about design. The downside is that it's going to be hard to be happy with any one product when I'm done :/
This seemed up your alley: kickstarter.com/projects/32517…-the-animated-mini-series
First ep. was a bit of a tease but I'll definitely keep an eye on it. Crowd-funding a series one ep at a time seems like a pretty scary endeavor.
Mostly I just saw "animated series by the director behind LoK and Voltron aimed at an older audience" and the rest was kinda irrelevant.
is 36 x (50 - 1)
is 36 x 50 - 36
How did you make this jump in your math-audio explanation?
It's the distributive property (if you wanna google it).
But the basic intuition is "I want 49 groups of 36 so I'll figure out what 50 groups of 36 is and then I'll take one 36 away (so I have 49 left)".
It makes so much sense and I would never think of doing that.
I think math education really failed me.
i cant get over this picture i.imgur.com/oI4wa6b.jpg
Oh shit everything from WotC's awkward mass marketing years is so good. youtu.be/HztAWVUO1Zo
Foo can u buy us new dish cloths please
Really loving your point of view on the Damore case and the broader "culture war".
Lol, thanks! But I think I'm done at "can you prove the guy who is suing for discrimination against his conservative beliefs is conservative?" >>
i don't blame you!
how are you an expert on everything??
Well, at the very least I'm an expert at hiding all the things I entirely lack expertise in by lurking behind a computer screen ><
Legit tho MTG is my actual oldest and most significant hobby. Playing simce I was 6. I don't have to fake it nearly so much ^_^
I think you're being entirely too modest!
Can I pick your brain a bit more about your thoughts/feelings on MTG's DFCs and other mechanics tho?
I've never played MTG (!), but I'm curious if you have thoughts on whether or not such cards are [i]satisfying[/i] as a play mechanic...and also if there are other unique mechanics (less in terms of description and more in terms of actual physical play) that are implemented...like I've been thinking about side-ways card play being meaningful etc....just not sure what is viscerally satisfying and also naturally intuitive for card players.
I love the idea of double faced because we already are focused on a turn/flip mechanic, but a sleeve or checklist is just not really feasible for hand concealment for what we've built already unless they are dealt on the board automatically at start of game or something. I googled a bit and it looks like there are "split" cards as well...?
Apologies if I'm bombarding you!!
Not at all!
Double Faced Cards were controversial in magic when first announced. A big reason for this is the implications the cards have for limited play. In limited formats, players open a pool of cards to build their decks from at the table. Usually these cards are hidden from the people around you, but it's not easy to hide a DFC. In order to avoid people needing to perform slight-of-hand at the table WotC ruled that anyone who opens a DFC in limited needs to announce it publicly.
Some didn't like this rule. Some didn't mind the rule itself but were annoyed that it caused IRL magic to play differently from online magic (when you play online limited, the DFCs stay hidden). Point is, many players went into Innistrad - the expansion where we first saw DFCs - highly skeptical.
Buuuuuut then Innistrad turned out to be one of the most successful magic sets of all time and those complaints were forgotten. DFCs became associated with one of magic's greatest historical successes, people learned to deal with playing with them in limited, and they've been brought back regularly - in one expansion every two years - ever since.
I certainly enjoy them. They've allowed for some really, really good design over the years - often more on the flavour side then the mechanical side, but still.
Magic uses a "tapping" mechanic which depends on the cards orientation. If a card on the field has an ability that can be used only once a turn then you turn it 90 degrees clockwise when using the ability ("tap" it) and then "untap" all of your cards when the next turn begins. Wizards actually had a patent on this use of card orientation for a while.
I think the Pokemon TCG is where you really want to look here though. Each possible orientation of a pokemon card is associated with a status condition (cards rotated 90 degrees CCW are asleep, card rotated 180 degrees are confused, cards rotated 90 degrees CW are paralyzed). I don't know much about this - never played pokemon seriously - but it's maybe worth looking in to?
And yeah, magic has split cards, flip cards, and aftermath cards which all read from a different orientation (split cards are read "sidewise", flip cards "upside down", aftermath is a weird mix). There's no rules associated with the orientation of these cards though. It's purely cosmetic.
Thank you Foo!! You've given me a lot to go on/look at. Appreciate you taking the time.
Hey, your sig makes me happy!
Which reminds me, I have a date with watching those Liliana videos excuse me.
ayy your link to the prisoner's dilemma in your fem post doesnt work for me? (also i remember you saying once to me you wondered if people even read through your links in your posts. proof that someone does!)
Hahaha. Thanks yo!
would you be interested in a text-based RPG set in the world Zoraluigi and I are making for our DnD campaign? It would be set several hundred years pre-campaign =3
Hey Foo! what do you think of Ixalan block? Combined and thinned down the two decks I made since the release.
Erm... well *objectively* I'll echo the worry that everyone else has and point out that two years ago a 7/6 with Trample and Hexproof for 7 was uncommon and in Ixalan it's mythic rare. Overall the set seems underpowered for standard and it had absolutely minimal presence at the World Championship on the weekend. On the limited side, two of the intended 8 archetypes (GW dinos and UR pirates) seem fairly unworkable to me and the folks I've talked/listened to, worse certainly than the unsupported UW and GB decks. It's the first large set in years without a masterpiece series which means its also the most expensive set in years (currently hovering at just over $300 for one of each card) and I don't think that's justifiable.
Subjectively though, for my own weird tastes, I'm pretty happy lol. It's, like, my 80th magic set. I really only need one cool take away The transforming lands are brilliant - flavourful and fun to play with - and if I can do four or five drafts and walk away with one of each I'll be stoked.
I dislike they're doing two sets instead of three for each block. I was lucky to pull mostly Dinos, so my GWR Dino deck ended up being better than I expected. Was disappointed I got maybe 5? Merfolk. Whereas my friends were able to build great GB Merfolk draft decks which played very well. And I agree about the UR Pirate deck builds being unworkable.
Lol, 80th? Wow. I feel severely uneducated talking about MTG now. But yeah, the enchanted lands are pretty cool. I usually dislike transform cards in general, but these I can see enjoying and actually putting to good use. I think I pulled the red and the green one so far from the two drafts I did.
It was an immense pleasure to read all your long mafia posts Foo and to watch your videos about GMing and the mafia community as a whole.
i was pleased to see you use "demimale" in your recent post, not sure if you're aware but i identify as a demi-male. my gender identity is obviously not enough for me to ever claim to be queer though
How have you been?
The stories that you write with some other members of the forums are cool. I have not read much of them, because I have been busy with other things. I do hope to have more time soon, and perhaps then I can read a lot more from them. You are really quite talented. The other people who write in those stories are very talented as well. There certainly are quite a few talented members of this board.
Did you take creative writing classes? I did when I was in High School, and they were some of my most favorite classes.
Well, I just wanted to stop by and say a quick hello, and to visit you here on your page.
Take care, and keep up with the very good work,
Thanks for saying so. I really don't think of myself as much of a writer, and I certainly don't have any formal training. I've got a couple of savvy tricks I picked up over the years but they mostly only work for quick scenes. I'd totally flounder if I had to write something extensive lol ^^
Luckily all the writing I do on ZU is in service to the games I'm playing, whether those are RPGs or "hidden roles" games like Mafia. Those are my true passion >>
There are definitely some talented folks on ZU though, which is great!
Thanks for stopping by dude. Have a good one.
Hey. Do you have any recommended reading for the topic you made in SD about Marxist ideals and public ownership?
Probably, but it might take a bit to drill down towards exactly what your after.
Engles' "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific" is a review of thought concerning property on the left through the 19th century. Kind of a "how Marc and I got here" tale. Maybe take a scim and see where you want more detail?
Nah. Just mostly wanting to get on the same page of what you may have been going for in that thread. Thanks!
Aight, I mean I think the only really important point is that the early communists saw the mass ownership of the means of production as a sort of guarantor of a just and effective society. Engels wrote:
The seizure of the means of production by society eliminates commodity production and with it the domination of the product over the producer. The anarchy within social production is replaced by consciously planned organization. The struggle for individual existence comes to an end. It is only at this point that man finally separates in a certain sense from the animal kingdom and that he passes from animal conditions of existence to really human ones. The conditions of existence environing and hitherto dominating humanity now pass under the dominion and control of humanity, which now for the first time becomes the real conscious master of nature, because and in so far as it becomes master of its own social organization. The laws of man's own social activity, which have hitherto confronted him as extraneous laws of nature dominating him, will then be applied by man with full knowledge and hence be dominated by him. Man's own social organization, which has hitherto confronted him as a process dictated by nature and history, now becomes a process resulting from his own voluntary action. The objective extraneous forces which have hitherto dominated history now pass under the control of man him self. It is only from this point that man will himself make his own history fully consciously, it is only from this point that the social causes he sets in motion will preponderantly and ever increasingly have the effects he wills. It is humanity's leap from the realm of necessity into the realm of freedom.
I love how you play Mafia, it is hilarious and beautiful at the same time. I get a little too competitive sometimes lol