Please get back to the discussion at hand.
MLK Jr. seems apt here:
"...The other force is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close to advocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groups that are springing up across the nation, the largest and best known being Elijah Muhammad's Muslim movement. Nourished by the Negro's frustration over the continued existence of racial discrimination, this movement is made up of people who have lost faith in America, who have absolutely repudiated Christianity, and who have concluded that the white man is an incorrigible devil."
Oh and this reply when it was brought up back in July was just perfect:
that description of the left isn't inaccurate, and I say that as a leftist. Yes, I'm bitter. Yes, I hate the current establishment. I even advocate violence against oppressors in the name of liberation. I have no faith in this shithole country of America, I eschewed Christianity a long time ago, and the white man is most certainly the devil.
You knowingly removed the first half of his example.
You speak of our activity in Birmingham as extreme. At fist I was ratherdisappointed that fellow clergymen would see my nonviolent efforts as those ofan extremist. I began thinking about the fact that stand in the middle of twoopposing forces in the Negro community. One is a force of complacency, made upin part of Negroes who, as a result of long years of oppression, are so drainedof self-respect and a sense of "somebodiness" that they have adjustedto segregation; and in part of a few middle class Negroes who, because of adegree of academic and economic security and because in some ways they profit bysegregation, have become insensitive to the problems of the masses. The otherforce is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close toadvocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groupsthat are springing up across the nation, the largest and best-known being ElijahMuhammad's Muslim movement. Nourished by the Negro's frustration over thecontinued existence of racial discrimination, this movement is made up of peoplewho have lost faith in America, who have absolutely repudiated Christianity, andwho have concluded that the white man is an incorrigible "devil."
He then goes on to say;
I have tried to stand between these two forces, saying that we need emulateneither the "do-nothingism" of the complacent nor the hatred anddespair of the black nationalist. For there is the more excellent way of loveand nonviolent protest. I am grateful to God that, through the influence of theNegro church, the way of nonviolence became an integral part of our struggle.
It's pretty obvious that you're not arguing in good faith.
Yes I did include only a part knowingly, that's why I put an ellipsis at the beginning and linked to the discussion I was drawing it from. And I concur with MLK's message as I stated earlier, that we are to neither be complacent and idle nor violent and hateful. The way of love is indeed more excellent.
The reason I quoted only his statement concerning the latter attitude was because that was the part most applicable to the conversation -- people were expressing what appeared to be not just discontent or disagreement, but active hatred for the right and me specifically. I further supported that concern I had by showing a response (that was liked by four other individuals) from an earlier time where this MLK quote had come up.INACTIVE UNTIL 2021
Here is a nice summary of the tremendous Blue Wave on Tuesday!! I found this on reddit so I take no credit.
House (Biggest Democratic Net Gain Since Watergate!)
- VA-10 Jennifer Wexton
- FL-27 Donna Shalala
- PA-05 Mary Gay Scanlon
- CO-06 Jason Crow
- PA-17 Conor Lamb
- MN-03 Dean Phillips
- FL-26 Debbie Mucarsel-Powell
- NJ-11 Mickie Sherrill
- KS-03 Sharice Davids
- VA-02 Elaine Luria
- NY-11 Max Rose
- PA-07 Susan Wild
- PA-06 Chrissy Houlahan
- TX-32 Colin Allred
- MI-11 Haley Stevens
- IL-06 Sean Casten
- AZ-02 Ann Kirkpatrick
- VA-07 Abigail Spanberger
- NY-22 Anthony Brindisi
- IA-01 Abby Finkenauer
- TX-07 Lizzie Pannill Fletcher
- IA-03 Cindy Axne
- NY-19 Antonio Delgado
- OK-05 Kendra Horn
- NJ-02 Jeff Van Drew
- MN-02 Angie Craig
- IL-14 Lauren Underwood
- NJ-07 Tom Malinowski
- MI-08 Elissa Slotkin
- SC-01 Joe Cunningham
- CA-25 Katie Hill
- NJ-03 Andy Kim
- NM-02 Xochitl Torres Small
- CA-48 Harley Rouda
- CA-49 Mike Levin
- GA-06 Lucy McBath
- WA-08 Kim Schrier
Additional races to watch: I'm hearing that Duncan Hunter & Chris Collins could serve possible jailtime for their indictments in the future, so there might be a couple of special elections we could capitalize on in the near future.
- Michigan Gretchen Whitmer
- Illinois JB Pritzker
- Kansas Laura Kelly
- Maine Janet Mills
- New Mexico Michelle Lujan Grisham
- Nevada Steve Sisolak
- Wisconsin Tony Evers
- Guam Lou Leon Guerrero
- Nevada Jacky Rosen
- Colorado State Senate
- New York State Senate
- New Hampshire State House
- New Hampshire State Senate
- Minnesota State House
- Maine State Senate
- Colorado Phil Weiser
- Wisconsin Josh Kaul
- Michigan Dana Nessel
- Nevada Aaron Ford
- Michigan Jocelyn Benson
- Colorado Jena Griswold
- Colorado Dave Young
- Wisconsin Sarah Godlewski
State Supreme Courts
- North Carolina
- Independent Redistricting 4 States (Utah, Missouri, Michigan, and Colorado) approved various independent redistricting measures that will overturn previously gerrymandered electoral maps.
- Felons' Rights Over 1 million Floridans had their rights to vote restored
- Medicaid Expansion 3 States (Idaho, Nebraska, and Utah) all voted in favor of medicaid expansion (Montana rejected it)
- Minimum Wage 2 States (Arkansas and Missouri voted to increase the minimum wage, giving raises to a combined total of 900,000 voters.
- Medical Marijuana 2 States (Utah and Missouri) voted to legalize medical marijuana, and Michigan voted to legalize marijuana altogether.
- Gun Control Washington now implements tighter restrictions on the purchase and ownership of firearms, including raising the minimum wage of gun ownership to 21.
- LGBT Rights Massachusetts now prohibits discrimination based on gender identity in public places (such as hotels, restaurants, and stores).
- Marsy's Law passed in 6 states (Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, and Oklahoma.)
- Same Day Voting Registration passed in Michigan and automatic voting passed in Nevada and Michigan, as well as voting straight ticket and requesting absentee ballot with no reason.
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- VA-10 Jennifer Wexton
US 2020 Elections and Electability
This discussion for the past 15 or so posts was going beyond midterm talk so I moved it over the thread above, fyi
McSally conceded today to Sinema.
“Gandalf put his hand on Pippin's head. "There never was much hope," he answered. "Just a fool's hope, as I have been told.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
Looks like Arizona's first (elected) Female Senator is a Bisexual, Agnostic Ex-Mormon Democrat who won against a literal Combat Veteran.
McMurray is gaining on Collins in absentee. You have NO idea how excited I am and hope that McMurray fucking destroys him.
Looks like Orange County in California has flipped blue for the first time in decades.
The GOP has almost been shut out in California.
Somehow society has allowed the Republicans to make counting all the votes be controversial in some circles.
note that a lot of these late votes are from active service members deployed overseas that have to mail in their votes
but their voice doesn't matter, really
Ask me for the clan test!
Looks like Love from UT-4 is going to lose her seat making +40 seats flipped for the democrats a possibility.
Also, the redistricting proposition in Utah is looking like it will pass.
The blue wave keeps getting larger.
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Speaking as a Utah person, I'm very anxiously awaiting the results of the redistricting measure. It's still too close for comfort, though it does look like it will pass.A dark chase requires a silent hound, and deep roots are not reached by the frost.
The 40th seat has been flipped!
Democrats are now at 235 seats.
This election showed that running as a moderate democrat in certain districts does produce success.
When candidates represent their constituents they win.
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