Excuse me, but my initial response was not to the poor education comment, it was to the snarky reply to it that suggested that all of the people who voted for Trump are said uneducated individuals.
It doesn't mean these people are bad people, it means they have shit education and it shows in their literacy rates. People with poor education also tend to be more ignorant than those who don't have poor education; hence why they may be more willing to believe Trump's bullcrap or whatever fake news stories they see on Facebook. Like, do you know how tired I am of seeing people share the whole "THESE DOCTORS FOUND A CURE TO CANCER AND THEN MYSTERIOUSLY TURNED UP DEAD" stories on FB seriously? Pretty fucking tired of it.
Are we actually trying to construe the intent to enforce border laws as inherently genocidal? I don't think "illegal immigrant" exactly counts as an ethnic, racial, or religious group, and the desire to remove them from the country for breaking our laws has much more to do with them, you know, breaking our laws, than it does about their being Latino and the intent to "destroy their culture". Like seriously are we calling illegal immigrants their own cultural identity? Really? Should I be worried about the "genocide" of the robber community because we have laws against that which we try to enforce?
Enforcing the borders is fine. The United States is allowed to have borders that they enforce fairly and to the letter of the law, even if I do believe that we need comprehensive immigration reform alongside this so that with the enforced borders it's actually possible for people to come in legally in less than a decade and a half (I think @Lucretia posted a very informative image about the amount of time it takes people to get into the country - not too sure, but if you do have it Lu pls send it to me or post because I'm actually curious to see it again.)
Anyways, never did I say illegal immigrants had their own cultural identity lmao. That's fucking ridiculous. What we do need to look at is the following:
Who are these policies targeting? By and large they're targeting non-white people of Spanish descent, or if you want to cast a broader net you just have non-white non-Christians in general with the Muslim ban Trump tried to institute when he first became president. These policies are dangerous because, yes, the United States is trying to eliminate Latinx culture in the United States. The first step is ~preventing more people from coming in~ however you want to frame it as "oh they're illegals"
Just check this out: washingtonpost.com/world/the_a…ml?utm_term=.e87d06203649
Or look at Trump's attacks on Mexicans during the election. Look at the treatment of the DREAMers since he was elected. Look at how people in the United States scoff at the idea that people might speak Spanish better than English, even though we do not have a official language in place. It's everywhere, not just people on this forum claiming that there's a genocide happening. It's being claimed because it's true.
When English speaking Americans came down into my homeland and eradicated my culture they didn't frame it as a genocide, they framed it as them coming into "better educate us". But it was a genocide. When white European settlers came to the New World and eradicated Native Americans, it wasn't called genocide, it was called them "taming the land" or "bringing the light of God to the uncivilized Natives". Now, as the United States works to push out all but a sliver of Latinx culture; the government barring new people from coming and deporting the old, the white population discriminating against these people, it's not called genocide, it's called "getting rid of the illegals and enforcing our borders".
You can argue that the separation of children from parents during the trial process is wrong, and I'm inclined to agree. But it wasn't instituted by Trump, and to use "genocide" to describe it is clearly an attempt to conflate it with things it clearly is not. This is not Japanese internment, this is not the destruction of the Native American culture, this is not the Holocaust.
Wow, I'm glad you agree that separating children as young as infants would be wrong. As an aside, it was started by Trump. Even if it wasn't, it was greatly exacerbated by Trump. Even if it wasn't greatly exacerbated by Trump, it's happening while he is president and he sat on his little desk or at his little golf course with his tiny hands up his ass saying he couldn't do anything because "dumbocrats".
Even if this was somehow "Obama's fault", I honestly could give less of a fuck if it's Obama's fault. Obama isn't president, Trump is, and if Obama had made a shitty policy like this then Trump is just as shitty for continuing it.
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