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    • Hi everyone. I hope you all enjoyed what we saw on Treehouse.

      During my ride on the 6 hour hype train I had a lot of questions. I'm sure at some point during the presentation at least some of us were wondering where on the timeline this game takes place. I really want to hear your thoughts on this. Maybe some clues you noticed or just a gut feeling, let's get some theories rolling!

      My own is that it takes place after Wind Waker, when perhaps the ocean has drained and we see the ruins of an old Hyrule. I'll just bullet point some of my reasoning for this:

      - First and foremost for me, They mention the rebuilding of Hyrule at some point in the event. On the "Hero of Wind & A New World" timeline we see "The Era of Hyrule's Rebirth" and I believe this is the era best suited for such an idea.

      - A Korok makes an appearance (Could be a wink or clue for connections with WW. Or just another recurring race haha.)

      -The game seems to start with Link exiting what appears to be, imo, some kind of stasis chamber. I think it would make sense for someone to be around to rebuild Hyrule after the waters that flooded it inevitably dissipate.

      All right, so not much to go on but that is my theory. What about you?

      (EDIT: I did notice a couple other timeline threads but I wanted to make something that sounds more inclusive of everyone's ideas, especially as time goes on and we get more information. Others seem to suggest one particular timeline to be debated.)


      Useful links and quotes:


      Yamikawa wrote:


      Various translations by the most awesome member we have on the boards. /bows
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      Daphnes Nohansen Quote:
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      Yamikawa wrote:


      That thing you see in the trailer has been established to be remains of a carriage with a flag mast behind it which is why it appears to be a ship's part.


      I know I'm being very persistent in this aspect and I apologize if I offend anyone, but post-TWW placement doesn't seem to plausible to begin with.

      The reason? The Hyrule King at the end of TWW touched the Triforce and asked the Goddesses to wipe out Hyrule along with Ganondorf.

      Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule wrote:

      トライフォースの神々よ 我は望む!
      Gods of the Triforce: this is my wish!

      未来を! この子らに、希望ある 未来をあたえよ!
      I want a future! Grant these children a future with hope!

      過去の地ハイラルを消し去り この子らの未来に光明を!!
      Erase the land of the past, Hyrule and grant hope to these childrens' future!

      これで、我らの因縁も終わろう・・・ ガノンドロフよ、ハイラルと共に 沈むがよい!!!
      Our fates have come to an end... Ganondorf! Sink along with Hyrule!!!

      That's why it stars to "rain" from the "ceiling": because the bubble protecting Hyrule has been cancelled and it's getting flooded.

      The Hyrule King wants Link and Tetra to be freed of the chains binding them to Hyrule, and to the past.

      So Hyrule is gone by the end of TWW, even if for some reason the sea was "un-flooded" then there wouldn't be anything left behind of Hyrule.

      The geography doesn't match either: the Hyrule in TWW had only a new Hyrule Castle where the MS was kept at and Ganon's tower close by.

      So in my opinion post-TWW isn't too plausible because the wish of the Hyrule King would be moot.

      Time will tell, though.


      The word Twillight in the memory:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @Therad


      黄昏 (tasogare) is defined as "sunset, dusk, twilight".

      This is how the "twilight" was referred as within TP as well.

      As for the seas part it might be part of the dialogue I'm unable to properly catch due to the heroes' talk overlapping Zelda's voice.

      I agree that it feels unlikely for two teams to have made up that part, but my understanding has been that NoE works off the NoA version so I guess the wording has to be there.


      Zelda says Ganons given up:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      I see a lot of talk about Zelda saying that Ganon has "given up reincarnation" but that sounds like a mistranlation by NoA.


      Here is the original:

      Zelda wrote:

      ガノン。。。 はるか太古に生まれ 幾度滅ばせようとも復活を繰り返す 憎悪と怨念の権化
      Ganon... Born a long, long time ago... Goes on ressurecting regardless of how many times he's destroyed... An incarnation of hatred and grudge...
      復活を諦めない妄念から暴走した姿。。。
      This form comes from his conviction of not giving up on ressurection running wild...

      So in here Zelda merely says that Ganon HASN'T given up and is convinced he will ressurect again and again: the Demon Beast form is the result of that conviction of his running wild.

      One would think after so much experience in game translation/localizing they would do a good job but looks like someone mistook the form of the verb "give up" here and didn't realize it was "not give up".

      Reincarnation is being born anew in another form (like how Hylia reincarnated as Zelda in SS) but here we're talking about ressurection/revival which is simply coming back from the dead.


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      Yamikawa wrote:

      I see, so someone mistook the noun "tasogare" (黄昏) with the verb "tasogareru" (黄昏れる).


      It's true that it can mean "fade into dusk", "to decline" but in this case it's just the noun "twilight/dusk".

      I agree that this reference seems to be implictly mean Twilight Princess but it could mean something else as well.



      Malice:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @Mirren "malice" is correct since it's one of the translations for the word 怨念 (onnen) which is used constantly through the Japanese version to describe Ganon: 怨念の塊 (onnen no katamari) "a mass of grudge / malice", 怨念と憎悪の権化 (onnnen to zoo no gonge) "incarnation of grudge / malice and hatred".

      So malice is correct but I don't know why they bother to capitalize it when it's just treated as a mere noun in the Japanese version, it's true that Beast Ganon is said to be grudge / malice as well but that doesn't make it anything special least a new concept altogether.


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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @Mirren

      It doesn't call it energy but it's indeed grudge / malice.

      Zelda wrote:

      ガノンは全身を怨念で覆っています。。。このままではどんな攻撃も受け付けないでしょう
      Ganon's covering his whole body in grudge / malice... In this current state no attacks will be able to harm him...




      Demise describes Ganon:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      It does. Demise did use the very same words Zelda uses to describe Ganon.


      Demise wrote:

      我の憎悪は... 魔族の呪いは... 悠久の時の果てまで輪廻を描く...
      (My hatred... The curse of the Demon Tribe... They shall go on reincarnating until the end of Time Eternal.)


      お前達は... 女神の血と 勇者の魂を持つ者共は永久に この呪縛から逃れられぬ!
      (You.. You who possess the blood of the Goddess and the soul of hero shall...forever be unable to escape from this curse!)


      この憎悪と怨念が... その権化が貴様らと共に 血塗られた闇の海を永遠にもがき彷徨い続けるのだ!!
      (This hatred, this grudge...its incarnations shall go on wriggling and wandering along you within a "Dark Sea" stained with your blood forever!)




      Knighting scene, several early revisions:
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      1:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @Instrutilus I managed to transcribe and translate the japanese dialogue of the knighting scene.


      Zelda and champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, you travel through time or you are dyed in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The bonded blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      「御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      海を越え 神の作れし黄金の を求めん時
      You cross the seas when you seek the gold made by the gods

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how to deal with him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      May you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力が宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...




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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @'darkoffspring I'm still working on it and I wanted to consult a japanese friend who's also a Zelda fan to see if he could help me with a couple of odd words.

      So take into account that it's not finished yet.

      What I've got insofar is the following:

      Zelda & Champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, travel through time or are stained in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The linked blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      [御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろ]ってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      ふにふえ?神の作れし黄金の()を求めん時
      (???) When you seek the golden (power?) the gods made
      English version: ["Over the seas of time and distance, when we knew the golden power of the goddess"]

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how she treats him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      Maybe you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力をが宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...




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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @blubee Well, it indeed is now that I listen to it several times.

      Thanks for the help.

      So the whole thing would end up like this:

      Zelda & champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, you travel through time or you are dyed in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The bonded blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      「御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      海を越え 神の作れし黄金の を求めん時
      You cross the seas when you seek the gold made by the gods

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how to deal with him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      May you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力が宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...

      So "cross the seas" exists but it's nothing like "cross the seas of time and distance" that the English version had.
      Nevertheless I still am unsure what to make of her words and if they really point to CT or not: I don't think it's a reference to LA either.


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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @'darkoffspring I'm still working on it and I wanted to consult a japanese friend who's also a Zelda fan to see if he could help me with a couple of odd words.

      So take into account that it's not finished yet.

      What I've got insofar is the following:

      Zelda & Champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, travel through time or are stained in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The linked blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      [御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろ]ってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      ふにふえ?神の作れし黄金の()を求めん時
      (???) When you seek the golden (power?) the gods made
      English version: ["Over the seas of time and distance, when we knew the golden power of the goddess"]

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how she treats him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      Maybe you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力をが宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...




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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @blubee Well, it indeed is now that I listen to it several times.

      Thanks for the help.

      So the whole thing would end up like this:

      Zelda & champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, you travel through time or you are dyed in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The bonded blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      「御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      海を越え 神の作れし黄金の を求めん時
      You cross the seas when you seek the gold made by the gods

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how to deal with him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      May you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力が宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...

      So "cross the seas" exists but it's nothing like "cross the seas of time and distance" that the English version had.
      Nevertheless I still am unsure what to make of her words and if they really point to CT or not: I don't think it's a reference to LA either.


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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @'darkoffspring I'm still working on it and I wanted to consult a japanese friend who's also a Zelda fan to see if he could help me with a couple of odd words.

      So take into account that it's not finished yet.

      What I've got insofar is the following:

      Zelda & Champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, travel through time or are stained in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The linked blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      [御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろ]ってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      ふにふえ?神の作れし黄金の()を求めん時
      (???) When you seek the golden (power?) the gods made
      English version: ["Over the seas of time and distance, when we knew the golden power of the goddess"]

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how she treats him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      Maybe you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力をが宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...




      Knighting scene, The last revision:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @blubee Well, it indeed is now that I listen to it several times.

      Thanks for the help.

      So the whole thing would end up like this:

      Zelda & champions wrote:

      Zelda
      退魔の剣に選ばれしハイラルの勇者よ
      Hero of Hyrule chosen by the demon-bane sword

      そのたゆまぬ努力と結実せし剣技を認め
      By recognizing steady effort and successful swordsmanship

      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けん
      I grant you blessing in the name of the Goddess Hylia

      空を舞い 時を巡り 黄昏に染まろうとも
      Even if you dance the skies, you travel through time or you are dyed in twilight

      結ばれし剣は勇者の魂と共に
      The bonded blade shall always be along the hero's soul

      さらなる力がそなたとそして退魔の剣に宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges in you and your demon-bane sword

      はるか遠き過去に生まれし退魔の剣よ
      Demon-bane sword born in a distant past

      Daruk
      やれやれ
      Oh boy

      前途多難みてえだな
      She’s acting like it’s a grim prospect

      Zelda
      勇者と共にハイラルの祝福を補う者よ
      You who bring blessings to Hyrule alongside the hero

      Revali
      何言ってんの
      You’re one to TALK

      Zelda
      女神ハイリアの名において祝福を授けよう
      I grant you blessings in the name of Goddess Hylia

      Revali
      「御付きの騎士任命の記念に太古の伝説真似てみろってはやし立てたのあんただろ?
      Weren’t YOU the one who suggested her to “Imitate the ancient legend to celebrate his assignment as your escort knight”?

      Zelda
      海を越え 神の作れし黄金の を求めん時
      You cross the seas when you seek the gold made by the gods

      Revali
      とはいえ 彼に対する態度に関してはあの姫と気が合いそうだよ 僕
      But, nevertheless... When it comes to how to deal with him... I think I’d agree with the Princess...

      Zelda
      そなたの姿は常に勇者と共にあり
      May you be alongside the hero

      退魔の剣とハイラルの勇者にさらなる力が宿らんことを
      I pray so that further power lodges into the Demon-bane sword and the hero of Hyrule

      Urbosa
      しょうがないよ 御ひい様にとっちゃ あいつの存在は。。。
      It can’t he helped. The guy standing there is like...

      そう コンプレックスの象徴みたいなもんだから
      Is like he was a symbol of the princess’ complexes...

      So "cross the seas" exists but it's nothing like "cross the seas of time and distance" that the English version had.
      Nevertheless I still am unsure what to make of her words and if they really point to CT or not: I don't think it's a reference to LA either.


      The Goron Gor Coron and Impaz quotes from TP:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      Well, let me check but I recall quotes being similar...


      Gor Coron wrote:

      それは、昔ハイラル王家に仕えてきた
      That's what a holy statue that a tribe that served
      ある一族だけが持っていた聖なる像ゴロ
      the Hyrule Royal Family in ancient times possessed, goro
      王家を裏で支えていた為 人里離れた場所に
      Since they supported the Royal Family from behind the scenes,
      ひっそりと暮らしていたが、長引く戦乱で
      they secretly lived in hidden villages, but I heard that they perished
      一族は滅んだと聞かされていたゴロ・・・
      due to the prolonging wars, goro...

      Impaz wrote:

      この村は 訳あって 王家に仕えた一族がThis was a hidden village that, due to some reasons,住んでいた隠れ里でしたが・・・was inhabited by a tribe that served the Royal Family yet...
      今は荒れ果て、あのような魔物がうろつくNow it's fallen into ruin, and it's become dangerous物騒な場所になってしまったのですsince monsters like those are roaming around here...






      The word inherited:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      Zelda wrote:

      @Therad
      Here you have and the word it's "inherited"

      王家の姫が代々受け継ぐし厄災を封印する力。。。
      The power to seal the calamity which the royal family princess inherit generation after generation
      それは祈りによって目覚める聖なるもの
      It’s a sacred power that’s awoken by prayer
      そう聞かされて育ちました
      That’s what I’ve been told during my raising
      けれど。。。
      However
      母が言っていた身体を満たす霊力も
      The “spiritual strength” that fills your body, as Mother described it...
      祖母は耳にしたという精霊の声も
      And the “spirit voice” which Grandmother is said to have heard...
      何一つ
      I can’t...
      私には感じられない
      Feel any of those
      父には何度も叱られました
      Father has scolded me many times
      「それはお前は学者の真似事ばかりやっているからだ」と
      “That’s because you’re always pretending to be a scholar”
      でも。。。
      But
      幼い頃からどんなに頑張っても祈っても
      I’ve prayed and worked hard a lot ever since my childhood yet
      古代の神縁のこの地に縋ってすら
      And even if I cling on in this land related to the ancient Gods...
      聖なる力が私を訪う事が無かった
      The sacred power didn’t come to me
      教えてください
      Please tell me
      私には。。。何が足りないのですか?
      What… am I lacking?





      Revive and not Reborn or Reincarnated:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @Ygris
      I managed to find the text:

      Kass wrote:

      古の勇者の残せし言の葉
      The words the ancient hero left behind
      我 いつの日か蘇る 厄災に備えん
      I shall revive one day and ready for the calamity
      蒼き海に そびえ立つ岩
      The rocks towering in the azure seas
      17のとき 我が蓄えを 指し示す
      Will signal my store at the time of 17

      So it's simply "revive" and not "reborn" or "reincarnated".


      Kass quest:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      @Ygris
      I searched for Cassieva / Kass quests, then narrowed down the name of the quest and then looked it up on YouTube. And from there I wrote it down.

      Regarding your question about "yomigaeru"

      甦る
      よみがえる
      yomigaeru
      to be resurrected, to be resuscitated, to be rehabilitated, to be revived, to be refreshed, to be restored, to be recalled (e.g. memories), to be brought back

      @PimpUigi
      There's a compilation of HE translations on its respective thread

      Nevertheless the page mostly describes all that's known about the Triforce and what happens to it in each game.

      In the WW section it wonders if it was destroyed / annihilated as a result of Daphnes' wish on it.

      It also says that it split after OoX and the pieces went to Ganon (said to be sealed as seen when Yuga unseals him in ALBW) and Zelda and Link



      Zora tablet about Ruto and that Nabooru reference:
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      Yamikawa wrote:

      Zora tablet about Ruto:

      King Drefan wrote:

      ゾーラ史 第5章
      Zora History, Chapter 5

      偉大なる祖ルト
      The great ancestor, Ruto

      ゾーラ王 ドレファン これに記す ——-
      The Zora King Drefan writes down the following:

      遥か昔…大厄災よりも 神獣 ヴァ・ルッタが造られし頃よりも 遥かな昔…
      A long, long time ago... In a distant past way before the great calamity and the creation of the Divine Beast Vah Rutta...

      ゾーラの王家に 1人の姫がいたという その名は ルト
      It’s said that there was a Zora royal family princess named Ruto

      一族の民に愛され ゾーラの守護神に仕える 見目麗しい活発な姫であったと伝えられている
      It’s told that she was a beautiful and active princess who was loved by the tribe’s citizens and server the Zora protector deity

      だが同じ時 世を支配せんと野望を抱く者が現れ ゾーラの里も彼の者が放つ災いに襲われた
      But around the same… A subject who had the ambition to rule the world appeared and the Zora Village was attacked by the calamity that the subject unleashed

      その時 ルトは賢者となり ハイラル王家の姫や勇者と共に 野望抱く者に立ち向かったという
      It is said that, then, Ruto became a sage and faced the ambitious subject alongside the Hyrule royal family princess and the hero

      その偉大なる功績は ゾーラは元より ハイラルの歴史にも 深く刻み込まれている
      That grand merit was not only deeply engraved in the history of the Zora but on the history of Hyrule as well,

      後の世で 厄災ガノンに立向かうべく造られた 神獣 ヴァ・ルッタはルトに肖り名づけられたのだ
      The Divine Beast Vah Rutta, built in a posterior age to face the Calamity Ganon, was named in honor of her

      そしてルッタの主に ゾーラの姫 我娘ミファーが選ばれたのも 運命が成した技なのかもしれぬ
      And the fact that my daughter, the princess of the Zora, Mifa, was chosen as the master of Rutta might have been something Fate decided

      And then the Nabooru reference:

      Urbosa wrote:

      ナボール。。。
      "Nabooru...

      神話に謳われる ゲルド族の賢者
      A Gerudo sage which appears in [our] legends..."

      その縁の名を頂いた あんたも 立派なゲルドよ
      "You [Naboris], who've inherited her name, are a great Gerudo as well"

      そうだろう?ナボリス
      "Isn't that the case, Naboris?"

      100年前 私らは あっさりと奴にやられちまった
      "We were so easily defeated 100 years ago..."

      けど もう負ける訳にはいかない
      “But we won’t lose again.”

      厄災ガノン
      “Calamity Ganon…

      伽話によれば あいつも元はゲルド族だ
      According to the fairy tales… It also was originally a Gerudo…”

      だから 私もあんたも 全力で奴に 立ち向かう
      “So that’s why… We’ll face it together with all of our strenght…”

      それが ゲルドの意地ってもんだろ?
      “I guess that’s the spirt of a Gerudo, right?”

      しっかりガノンを捉えていておくれ
      “Make sure to keep your marks on Ganon…”

      リンクが奴と戦う時 凄い一発を食らわらせてやろうじゃないか
      “When Link fights it let’s deliver one hell of a blow to the thing…”

      今から その瞬間が楽しみだよ
      “I’m SO looking forward to that, I really am!”









      Ygris wrote:


      Gorons!
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      We were talking about Gorons.




      We have Daruk (BotW) on top


      Darmani (M'sM) on the below (and not Darunia... By the way were is Darunia?)



      A baby goron, the Elder's son(M'sM) on the right?




      And last but not least... Gor Coron (TP) on the left.



      Ok, that's a very good point for the CT.

      Of course we can imagine he was important in some way in the DT like I've sayd before about Medli. But still...

      I just wonder where is Darunia? He must be there! And why two characters from M'M?

      Well... You know what? it's like BotW fit every where.... :tilt: :tilt: :tilt: :tilt:
      I start reconsidering a unified timeline once again.... :looney: :looney:





      Instrutilus wrote:


      The Zora Tablets, NoA version.
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      History of the Zora, Part One
      The Eternal Zora's Domain
      As told by King Dorephan

      The rains have blessed Lanayru since ancient times with and abundance of pure, clean water.

      Seeking a bounty of such water, the Zora gathered there. Thus, as the legends go, the domain was born 10,000 years ago.

      The land was also rich in ore, and so a unique form of stonemasonry was developed to create our new home.

      The domain is one giant sculpture, a feat of architecture that has drawn admirers the world over.

      Our great domain will ever stand as a hallmark of the esteemed artists who made it, an eternal symbol of the Zora pride.


      ---


      History of the Zora, Part Two
      A Reservoir of Hope
      As told by King Dorephan

      Once every 10 years, the Lanayru region experiences unusually heavy rainfall. The Zora River flooded every time.

      The tides damaged not only our domain but our people, washing away our poor souls and causing great suffering and disarray.

      The Zora king of that time, after seeking aid from the king of Hyrule, rode out to see what could be done.

      By joining the architectural genius of the Zora and Hyrule's technological prowess, East Reservoir Lake was swiftly built.

      Thanks to this fruitful partnership, Hyrule was no longer plagued by these devastating floods.

      In gratitude, the Zora king promised the king of Hyrule to manage the reservoir level and protect all of Hyrule from floods.

      Each Zora king since has kept that oath, spanning 10,000 years. That is why the reservoir signifies our bond with Hyrule.


      ---


      History of the Zora, Part Three
      Miracle of the White Scale
      As told by King Dorephan

      Our scholars say that in the distant past, Zora's Domain had a king with no special talent for the art of war.

      What he lacked in skill with a blade, he made up for in love for his people, and especially love for his queen.

      One day, news reached the king of a horde of monsters gathering in the Zodobon Highlands.

      The king steeled himself for war to protect his people, but the queen knew how ill suited for the task he was.

      Worried for his life, she wove one of her own scales into his armor, hoping that her love would protect him in battle.

      It seemed for a time that the tide of battle favored the Zora and that all would make it safely home.

      But the cunning Lizalfos general saw an opening and seized it, driving the king's forces into a corner.

      Just when the general's sword was ready to crash down upon the king, a miracle took place.

      An errant sunbeam reflected from the scale on his armor blinded the Lizalfos, stopping the deathblow from falling.

      This was the chance the king needed to rally his forces and turn the tide, taking down the general and securing victory.

      This came to be known as the Miracle of the White Scale, a scale that only female Zora possess.

      It was this miracle that began the tradition of Zora princesses crafting armor for their future husbands.


      ---


      History of the Zora, Part Four
      The Lightscale Trident
      As told by King Dorephan

      The queen and I were blessed with a daughter as lovely as a jewel. We named our princess...Mipha.

      To celebrate her birth, the smithy Dento presented Mipha with a gift: a mighty spear called the Lightscale Trident.

      Mipha grew into a bright girl and soon reached the age of receiving lessons from the royal family's order of knights.

      The whole of the royal guard adored her, especially Sergeant Seggin, who loved her as if she were his own kin.

      Under Seggin's instruction, Mipha honed her skills, and her radiance grew along with her skill with the Lightscale Trident.

      As a Champion, Mipha made her people proud. However, once the Great Calamity struck, she was never to return.

      All of Zora's Domain fell into misery. The merest thought of the princess was enough to overcome anyone with tears.

      As a way of offering her soul repose, they tried to send the Lightscale Trident drifting down the Zora River.

      But when they did, the trident began to glow, and Mipha's voice rang loud and clear for all Zora to hear:

      "The Lightscale Trident and I are one... Abandon your grief and know joy once again. Do not cry...just remember."

      And so, keeping to her request, on the day of the Great Calaimity...the day that Mipha passed from this world...

      the Zora venerate the Lightscale Trident and remember their brave princess.

      Such is the origin of the Champion Festival.



      ---


      History of the Zora, Part Five
      The Sage Princess Ruto
      As told by King Dorephan

      Long, long ago... In a past more distant than even the Great Calamity or the creation of the Divine Beast Vah Ruta...

      There was a Zora princess named Ruto.

      We know that she was an attendant to the Zora patron deity and that she was a fair and lively girl, beloved to all.

      Around that same time, an evil man with designs on ruling the world appeared, bringing disaster upon Zora's Domain.

      It is said that Ruto then awoke as a sage, facing this for alongside the princess of Hyrule and the hero of legend.

      Her achievements are remembered not only by the Zora, they are also forever etched in the history of Hyrule.

      The Divine Beast Vah Ruta, built ages later to face off against Calamity Ganon, was named in honor of Ruto.

      That the Zora princess-my sweet daughter Mipha-was chosen to pilot Ruta is surely the work of fate.


      ---


      History of the Zora, Part Six
      Divine Beast Vah Ruta
      As told by King Dorephan

      When the Divine Beast Vah Ruta was first discovered at Zora's Domain, my daughter Mipha hurried to see it.

      Those present that day say they saw an unusual sparkle of excitment in Mipha's normally calm eyes as she beheld Ruta.

      The princess spoke of the Divine Beast as she would a friend and was overjoyed when she was chosen to pilot Ruta.

      I thought nothing of it at the time, but given the events that followed, I now regret allowing this to happen.

      I have spent many years consumed by guilt. My dearest wish is that her soul will know peace. I pray for it every day.


      ---


      H---ory of the Zor-, Part S-ven
      The H-ro Who D-feat-d the Ly--l
      As T--d b- King Dorephan

      T--re was a time when the p--ple of the land were thre--ened by the dr--- beast Ly-e- who lived on Pl--mu- M--ntain.

      But one Hy---n drove th- beast back an- re--ored peace to the do--in.

      Th- Zora helm w-n in th-s fight i- no- north of --- in the r--ns near ---- L-ke.

      It re--s ther- to h--or the d--ds of the he-- L---.

      (Time has taken it's toll on this)


      ---


      History of the Zora, Addendum 1
      King Dorephan Stands His Ground

      Around 100 years after King Dorephan ascended to the throne, a stray Guardian crossed Upland Zorana into our domain.

      The Guardian seemed unstoppable. Our best soldiers' spears barely left a scratch on its metal hull.

      It was then that our King Dorephan, without a thought for his own safety, came out to face the Guardian himself.

      With supernatural strength, he lifted the Guardian and hurled it into a ravine.

      The impact of the fall left the Guardian in pieces, and it was never to trouble another Zora ever again.

      The citizens celebrated the king's valor. From then on, their trust and respect for him grew beyond compare.

      You can still see the scar he earned that day on his forehead-a token of his triumph.


      ---


      History of the Zora, Addendum 2
      Prince Sidon's Great Escape

      There was once a giant Octorok in Hateno Bay, large as a mountain, which terrorized the village's fishers.

      Hearing of their distress, Prince Sidon went forth to personally eliminate the offending Octorok.

      But this Octorok was a tricky beast. After the prince dodged one of the stones it spat, it inhaled him whole.

      Such had been the fate of many strong warriors who went to slay the Octorok. Not one had come back alive.

      Just as it seemed Prince Sidon would be counted among them, the giant Octorok twisted in pain.

      The tip of the silverscale spear pierced the Octorok's stomach from within, revealing itself as the source of the beast's agony.

      Incredibly, Prince Sidon had fought his way out by stabbing his spear over and over into the monster's stomach.

      Unable to bear the pain, the Octorok coughed up the prince and scrambled to escape.

      Ever since, the fisher of Hateno Bay have passed down this heroic tale: The Prince Who Slew the Fell Octorok


      ---


      Memoir of a Gifted Stonemason

      What an honor it was to receive a personal request from King Dorephan to craft a historical stone monument!

      I did not realize how much content he'd give me, though... It certainly exceeded the line limits of a single monument.

      I suppose I could have just shortened the text, but it felt wrong to tamper with our great king's words.

      Thankfully, I was able to split it all between seven monuments to ensure that every word was preserved.

      I have always prided myself on my ability to think outside the box. I am so very adaptable! And humble as well.

      While I was at it, I thought...why not add two of my own? And so I created one for King Dorephan and one for Prince Sidon.

      True, this is outside the scope of my commission... But I believe their triumphs deserve as much! But why stop at that...

      Why, indeed! My achievement surely deserves remembrance too. That is how a commission of one became 10.

      Of course, having increased the number of monuments, I had to find places for them all... That proved difficult.

      Still, it is worth it! So long as I remember to sign these monuments, my name will be remembered forever. As it should be.





      Instrutilus wrote:


      Why HoT is known in child timeline.
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      -wanders in-
      Majora's Mask opening

      ハイラルに伝わる 王家の伝説 そこに 一人の少年が 登場する
      A boy appears in the legends of the Royal Family told in Hyrule
      巨悪と戦い ハイラルを救ったのち彼は、伝説から 姿を消した・・・
      He vanished from the legends after fighting the gigantic evil and saving Hyrule...
      時をこえた戦いを終え 彼は 人知れず 旅に出た
      After the battle across time ended he departed into a secret journey
      冒険の終わりで 別れた かけがえのない 友を探す旅に・・・
      To search for his irreplaceable friend with whom he parted ways at the end of his adventures...

      So guys, guess which timeline knows of the legend of the Hero of Time and, in all likelihood, the Sages?-removes that little hindrance to the CT placement-

      Thank you to the wise and wonderful @Yamikawa, who provided the translation and confirmed that the vanished part is in reference to a person hiding from it, not that the legends disappeared.

      -wanders out-

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    • Hey, Tri.Midna thats a really good theory to the placement of this new game.
      I was also thinking that it could be a sequel to Skyward Sword.
      During the first part of the gameplay [LoZ:Breath of the Wild Gameplay Pt 1], the voice we heard in the beginning of the game trailer tells Link, "Link...You are the light-our light-that must shine upon Hyrule once again."
      Maybe it could be the return of the first Link?
      Given, there is no Hyrule yet in SS. I am skeptical about it because there's also all the blue energy he can use and the monsters who appear to be ruins in the gameplay. Don't forget the Korok appeared in SS too.
      "Being a soldier is more than Courage.
      It's sacrificing yourself for something greater than yourself."
    • Downfall timeline for sure. They put a lot of emphasis on Hyrule being declining and basically gone, which is the same state it was in in LoZ and AoL. They also compared it to the original LoZ a lot, which makes me think it's actually going to be a straight up remake/reimagining of the original.

      As for the Korok, if the Kokiri could turn into them in the adult timeline then they could in the others too.

      If it was after Wind Waker the Master Sword would be in Ganon's head, but as we saw in the trailer it's in the sacred grove.
      "That's the real trouble with the world, too many people grow up." - Walt Disney

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    • Thanks Hyrulean Army! Unfortunately some information I missed about Link's sleep puts my theory to bed, and while I think the idea of the first Link returning would be utterly fantastic (loved SS story), I don't think we could see the establishment and decline of a kingdom (along with a Temple of Time) in just 100 years ;_;.

      As of now I agree with Reign and the others I've seen say Downfall. This fits much better and the nods to the original Zelda do make sense in that context. I suppose with that in mind this whole thread is basically resolved?

      Thank you so much for responding!

      EDIT: Of course, if anyone has any ideas they want to throw around I'd be happy to read them.

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    • My general thoughts on timeline placement is that this game is very far along on any of the three branches - further than FSA, ST, possibly as far as or further than the original games in the Downfall timeline.

      My reasoning for that is that, true to their promise, this game looks vast, wild, and isolating (though yes there are towns and npcs). It's very evocative of Princess Mononoke in that there's raw natural and magical power being exuded everywhere.

      Another is that Hyrule Castle seems to be a very bad place to be right now, covered in an evil swirling mist, and it's strongly suggested that Ganon is back and it's he who's causing all of this. Not Ganondorf, but Ganon.

      Lastly, the image of the Master Sword portrays it as possibly the most worn and decrepit we have ever seen it, near broken and useless. This suggests a HUGE amount of time has taken place since the sword was last used and restored.

      Honestly, I think this game could be placed on any of the timelines, at the very end. It can be post-FSA in the Child Timeline, with Ganon having come back with a vengeance (or it's a new Ganon) and ravaging the land. It can be post-ST in the Adult Timeline, with the floodwaters having receded and Ganon managing to break free from his stone prison, claiming Hyrule for his own at last. It can even be post-AoL in the Downfall Timeline as the land started to recover, and despite the events of AoL Ganon managed to return.

      Honestly, I'm not sure which timeline it could be on, as there's evidence it could be on any one of them. Each timeline ends with the Master Sword at rest, and having been at rest for multiple games and multiple eras.

      The land is large, dangerous, and dotted with bits of civilization like the DT, and there are references to the landmarks from the first two games (the Twin Peaks).

      There are Koroks, which have strong ties to the Great Sea and the AT, and there is a lot of tech that is evocative of the Tower of the Gods.

      The Temple of Time is well known for starring in the CT and here it is yet again, old and broken, and the music in the trailer has hints of Midna's theme.

      Conclusion: Not sure which timeline it's on per se, but I'm definitely sure it's one of the last on whichever timeline it is on. In order of most to least likely: DT, AT, CT.
    • Fantastic observations Topaz. The specific mention of Ganon and not Ganondorf would have gone completely unnoticed by me had you not said anything. Interesting. Wouldn't that make it the first modern incarnation of Ganon? Assuming he would resemble the classic pigman form more than that beast one from TP. I also hadn't considered the condition of the Master Sword which does look very decrepit. The way they showed it reminds me of the cover on the ALTTP manga that came out a little while ago.

      I like that it's Ganon again. True that given his nature of resurrection and a long passage of time this story could fit anywhere at the end, but yeah DT seems most likely. Seems he's always Ganon during those eras. Likely because they are mostly older games developed pre-Ganondorf...but hey it would keep with that "tradition" in the timeline!

      Anyway, like I said, great post! Thanks for the insight.
    • Swift Sail wrote:

      The part about Link waking up in the "Resurrection Chamber" makes me wonder if we're playing as a new Link or a revived Link from a different timeline.

      Honestly, seeing him wake up from a stasis pod in an ancient sci-fi temple with apparently no explanation for his past or story indications of past memories is already telling enough.

      I doubt this is really Link. Hell, I doubt this "Link" is even human at all. But that's for another time.

      As for the timeline placement - I'm just going to go full crackpot theory and suggest that BoTW's Hyrule is undergoing a space-time continuum error thanks to Ganon's henanigans and we're seeing BOTW' pull a Dark Souls. Hyrule is now in a Lordran-like state with various settings, races, characters and geographical formations across the various timelines are suddenly meeting and forming together in this weird pseudo-timeline of BoTW's Hyrule. Wind Waker koroks and great sea salt minerals, OoT's Temple of Time, TP's Wolf Link, SS goddess statues - we can't pinpoint the exact timeline placement because there isn't one. It's all converging into its own pocket-universe.

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    • An Hero of Time wrote:

      Swift Sail wrote:

      The part about Link waking up in the "Resurrection Chamber" makes me wonder if we're playing as a new Link or a revived Link from a different timeline.
      Honestly, seeing him wake up from a stasis pod in an ancient sci-fi temple with apparently no explanation for his past or story indications of past memories is already telling enough.

      I doubt this is really Link. Hell, I doubt this "Link" is even human at all. But that's for another time.

      As for the timeline placement - I'm just going to go full crackpot theory and suggest that BoTW's Hyrule has undergoing a space-time continuum error thanks to Ganon's Shenanigans and we're seeing BOTW' pull a Dark Souls. Hyrule is now in a Lordran-like state with various settings, races, characters and geographical formations across the various timelines are suddenly meeting and forming together in this weird pseudo-timeline of BoTW's Hyrule. Wind Waker koroks and great sea salt minerals, OoT's Temple of Time, TP's Wolf Link, SS goddess statues - we can't pinpoint the exact timeline placement because there isn't one. It's its own converging pocket-universe.
      If this is the case and its a way to merge the timelines back together at the end of each of them (and bring back many characters), I'd absolutely love that. But I highly doubt it really is a convergence.


      But who knows? I wouldn't mind them just "resetting" it like this. Basically, a soft reboot. The existing timelines are still there, but this merges them back together into one for future titles.


      I don't buy the "Link isn't human" and "Link isn't Link" aspect. Regardless of what he is, he's definitely Link. And definitely human, he's just being brought back by ancient technology.
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    • the insignia in the spirit orbs we have seen are all of the hylian crest without the triforce, something not seen until SS

      Also koroks came about after WW from the kokiri, if we so much as smell a Rito it is definitely on that timeline. So I thinkit needs to be something post flood, the goddesses have dried up the seas and some shit is going on. Ganon somehow got the sword out of his face and it has been left in a grove, how? No idea.

      I wonder why there is no triforce around on those crests.


      Also yeah I dunno about link... the whole "oh shit i am born an adult" sorta thing seems veryyyyy reminiscent to hero of time. Fun!
    • Alright, so, I have a vague idea on where I think this will go in the timeline. Spoiling because some people might want to be in the dark about some of the stuff from later parts of the stream and all.

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      I think this might be a sequel to Zelda 2.

      From the official trailer, it looks like something happens involving Link right before a shot of some kind of evil emerging, which from the monks and stuff in the Shrines I'm guessing is Ganon himself. We know there's this place called the Tower of Resurrection. I'm thinking the demo version, to avoid spoilers, cuts out what exactly happens here.

      My current theory is that Our Hero might be the same Link from the first two games, The Legend of Zelda and the Adventure of Link, possibly sealed away to avoid his blood being used to bring back Ganon, as shown by the Game Over screens from Adventure of Link. For whatever reason, Link is released from his "stasis" and let loose, and maybe something happens outside the Temple of Time that results in his blood getting taken and used to bring back old Pigface himself. Part of it is I like the kind of meta reasoning behind it...if they're going back to the basics and the original games, it fits from a narrative point of view to bring back the Hero from those games to continue his adventure.
    • DoubleDipDelish wrote:

      My prediction is that Nintendo won't give an official stance of timeline placement, and play up the nebulous 'Legend' nature of the story, moving away from the defined timeline given in Hyrule Historia.

      And in the absence of official clarification, most fans will arrive at the conclusion that it falls a long time after Adventure of Link.
      See, I'd be inclined to believe that too. Except Nintendo went out and confirmed Triforce Heroes as being apart of the official timeline as well. They tweeted it was set after ALBW. Why? Idk, but I guess they've changed their minds about each Zelda game being standalone and want to play up their multiverse. 'Gotta Buy'em All!'
    • AllStarNemesis wrote:

      DoubleDipDelish wrote:

      My prediction is that Nintendo won't give an official stance of timeline placement, and play up the nebulous 'Legend' nature of the story, moving away from the defined timeline given in Hyrule Historia.

      And in the absence of official clarification, most fans will arrive at the conclusion that it falls a long time after Adventure of Link.
      See, I'd be inclined to believe that too. Except Nintendo went out and confirmed Triforce Heroes as being apart of the official timeline as well. They tweeted it was set after ALBW. Why? Idk, but I guess they've changed their minds about each Zelda game being standalone and want to play up their multiverse. 'Gotta Buy'em All!'
      No, actually, they promised to answer four questions the fans were asking. One of the possible questions was timeline placement.


      I'm in agreement here. I think they're going to avoid spilling the beans on the timeline. However, I do think they know the timeline placement for this game. I think we'll be able to determine the timeline placement by playing the game, but it might take a while to discover it. (Triforce Heroes was only thrown together for the hell of it anyway.)


      I think they'll show a trailer with major characters in the game at a later point and show off a few towns and basic story details, but otherwise they'll keep everything top secret because they want fans to discover it for themselves.
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    • JaidynReiman wrote:

      AllStarNemesis wrote:

      DoubleDipDelish wrote:

      My prediction is that Nintendo won't give an official stance of timeline placement, and play up the nebulous 'Legend' nature of the story, moving away from the defined timeline given in Hyrule Historia.

      And in the absence of official clarification, most fans will arrive at the conclusion that it falls a long time after Adventure of Link.
      See, I'd be inclined to believe that too. Except Nintendo went out and confirmed Triforce Heroes as being apart of the official timeline as well. They tweeted it was set after ALBW. Why? Idk, but I guess they've changed their minds about each Zelda game being standalone and want to play up their multiverse. 'Gotta Buy'em All!'
      No, actually, they promised to answer four questions the fans were asking. One of the possible questions was timeline placement.


      I'm in agreement here. I think they're going to avoid spilling the beans on the timeline. However, I do think they know the timeline placement for this game. I think we'll be able to determine the timeline placement by playing the game, but it might take a while to discover it. (Triforce Heroes was only thrown together for the hell of it anyway.)


      I think they'll show a trailer with major characters in the game at a later point and show off a few towns and basic story details, but otherwise they'll keep everything top secret because they want fans to discover it for themselves.
      About TriForce Heroes:

      "In a recent interview with Gamespot, the game's director, Hiromasa Shikata said, you play as the exact same hero from A Link Between Worlds. Describing it as "a little unusual for a Zelda game, he said, "Initially, the story starts with the king recruiting hero candidates, and that's where Link steps in. There's a part of me that doesn't want people to come into the game thinking, 'Is he not a hero then? Is he just a candidate?' But I want to reassure people that this Link is the hero that came from the A Link Between Worlds world." "

      About Kuroks:

      "Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes. Now they fear people... but to me, they will ever be my cherished little children."— Great Deku Tree

      They are, literaly, the evolution of the Kokiris to survive the flood so there's no sense on them being in another timeline.
      Also, the Great Deku Tree is dead in Zelda 01 so it leaves another question what are the Kuroks doing now that they don't have seeds to plant?





      PS: Ok I never played AoL but now I searched the world map and most of it is covered in water so it makes sense for the kuroks to have evolved and there are a lot of places that I can see on the BotW map.
    • Koh wrote:

      JaidynReiman wrote:

      AllStarNemesis wrote:

      DoubleDipDelish wrote:

      My prediction is that Nintendo won't give an official stance of timeline placement, and play up the nebulous 'Legend' nature of the story, moving away from the defined timeline given in Hyrule Historia.

      And in the absence of official clarification, most fans will arrive at the conclusion that it falls a long time after Adventure of Link.
      See, I'd be inclined to believe that too. Except Nintendo went out and confirmed Triforce Heroes as being apart of the official timeline as well. They tweeted it was set after ALBW. Why? Idk, but I guess they've changed their minds about each Zelda game being standalone and want to play up their multiverse. 'Gotta Buy'em All!'
      No, actually, they promised to answer four questions the fans were asking. One of the possible questions was timeline placement.

      I'm in agreement here. I think they're going to avoid spilling the beans on the timeline. However, I do think they know the timeline placement for this game. I think we'll be able to determine the timeline placement by playing the game, but it might take a while to discover it. (Triforce Heroes was only thrown together for the hell of it anyway.)


      I think they'll show a trailer with major characters in the game at a later point and show off a few towns and basic story details, but otherwise they'll keep everything top secret because they want fans to discover it for themselves.
      About TriForce Heroes:
      "In a recent interview with Gamespot, the game's director, Hiromasa Shikata said, you play as the exact same hero from A Link Between Worlds. Describing it as "a little unusual for a Zelda game, he said, "Initially, the story starts with the king recruiting hero candidates, and that's where Link steps in. There's a part of me that doesn't want people to come into the game thinking, 'Is he not a hero then? Is he just a candidate?' But I want to reassure people that this Link is the hero that came from the A Link Between Worlds world." "

      About Kuroks:

      "Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes. Now they fear people... but to me, they will ever be my cherished little children."— Great Deku Tree

      They are, literaly, the evolution of the Kokiris to survive the flood so there's no sense on them being in another timeline.
      Also, the Great Deku Tree is dead in Zelda 01 so it leaves another question what are the Kuroks doing now that they don't have seeds to plant?
      There is no evidence of the Great Deku Tree being in Zelda 01 at all. The idea of the Great Deku Tree didn't even exist at the time. There are large dead trees, but it has never been stated any of them are the Great Deku Tree whatsoever.


      Undoubtedly the Great Deku Tree will be an NPC Link can meet in this game.
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