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    • Hiya folks!

      A few months ago before the dreaded ZU database crash we had a thread where people could ask short questions and then seasoned ZU theorists could try to tackle them. I figured I'd give reviving that concept a shot :)

      If you want to know if Hyrule Historia has any info about a question you may have, this is the thread for you.

      If you have a simple theory but don't feel like writing all those pesky arguments, this is the thread for you.

      If you want to prove your salt as an answerer or asker of difficult questions, this is the thread for you.

      This thread has the following nifty benefits:
      - no more threads asking questions in the OP that get answered within the first two posts. This'll get rid of clutter.
      - members basically have free reign to ask whatever without being judged, which is a great creative process.
      - active theorists get to show off their activity by answering every question before others get the chance.
      - veteran theorists get to show off their knowledge by asking difficult questions which only they can answer.

      Now then, some groundrules:
      - don't argue in this thread. If you're insistent on starting an argument, quote the relevant post and copy + paste it in a new thread or simply go to VM or PM.
      - only questions and answers related to the games' universe. Yes to questions about interlopers, no to questions about how much the Wind Waker costs these days.
      - do some research before answering any questions. No uncertain guesses based on shaky evidence, unless there really isn't an answer to the question.
      - don't post full pagelong theories here, they could use their own thread. Leaving extensive replies, on the other hand, is okay.
      - be nice.

      Now then, let's kick this baby off.

      First question: Could the Great Deku Tree Sprout be related to regular Deku Sprouts?

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    • Not including Demise, we've seen three different villains that go by the name Ganon, right? To my knowledge, we have the main Ganondorf from OoT, AlttP, OoX, TP, and WW, the Ganondorf that destroys Hyrule in the original LoZ, and the incarnation that is currently imprisoned within the four sword in the child time line. Is this correct? Please don't spoil ALBW if it's relevant to the answer.
    • PreciselyRobin wrote:

      Not including Demise, we've seen three different villains that go by the name Ganon, right? To my knowledge, we have the main Ganondorf from OoT, AlttP, OoX, TP, and WW, the Ganondorf that destroys Hyrule in the original LoZ, and the incarnation that is currently imprisoned within the four sword in the child time line. Is this correct? Please don't spoil ALBW if it's relevant to the answer.

      LOZ Ganon is the same Ganon seen in all the other games you mentioned except for FSA. Otherwise you are correct.
    • I'm afraid that properly answering this question will require spoilers from ALBW, so I won't go into detail about that.

      I'll just say this: according to Hyrule Historia, Ganon gets resurrected some time before LoZ.

      Here's a quote from Hyrule Historia about his appearance in LoZ:

      [QUOTE=Hyrule Historia, page 106, The Demon King Ganon]The Demon King has been defeated countless times by heroes in the past. He is thought to have been resurrected after many years. Leading a demon army, he invades Lesser Hyrule, seeking the Triforce. No longer bearing any trace of the man known as the Great Thief, Ganondorf, he opposes Link in form of a demonic beast, bereft of intelligence.[/QUOTE]
      HA! GOT 'EM!

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    • Darth Vader wrote:

      ALttP Link, LoZ/AoL Link, FSA Link, ALBW Link.
      These guys are all wearing the green tunic but we dont see why. They are..just wearing it.


      Close, but not quite. ALBW Link wears his tunic because it's what all of the blacksmiths seem to wear.

      Question: was it ever established how Link's "hammer space" works in-universe?

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    • Boba Fett wrote:

      Close, but not quite. ALBW Link wears his tunic because it's what all of the blacksmiths seem to wear.

      Question: was it ever established how Link's "hammer space" works in-universe?


      It never was, but if you want a noncanonical answer, I have one. Starting with AlttP Link, all Links until SS Link used magical pouches, similiar to Dungeons&Dragons' Bag of Holding.
      Even though the western animation of The Legend of Zelda is noncanonical to the series, a magical pouch is shown being used by the protagonists.

      The LoZ/AoL Link wears all the items on him at the same time. I have yet to see it again on other Links.



      Question: Why does Lanaryu's ocean of the past resemble the Great Bay from Termina so much?
    • ^^ That's a bit subjective, is it not? Theres no confirmed relation between the two, and unfortunately, I cannot peer into your mind and see why you believe they look alike. The only real similarities I could see is that they're both marine areas located in the west on their games' maps. Aside from that, I don't really know what else you are seeing in Lanayru that resembles GBC.
      HA! GOT 'EM!

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    • ASBW wrote:

      ^^ That's a bit subjective, is it not? Theres no confirmed relation between the two, and unfortunately, I cannot peer into your mind and see why you believe they look alike. The only real similarities I could see is that they're both marine areas located in the west on their games' maps. Aside from that, I don't really know what else you are seeing in Lanayru that resembles GBC.


      I have faith, that both Termina (as the japanese manual stated it as a Parallel World/Universe) and Hyrule were identical at one point until a specific quantum super position took place, which made Termina and Hyrule to the worlds we know. Lorule was also the same in the past, except it didn't became a Termina-like world, but a ruined world because events occured differently.
      In case you still do not understand my explaination of states and quantum superpositions, perhaps this one will do it.
      Zelda Legends - Storyline - Storyline FAQ - Majora's Mask

      Baton and the others may disagree with me, but I have great faith in science.

      ASBW, next question please.

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    • gamtos wrote:

      Close, but not quite. ALBW Link wears his tunic because it's what all of the blacksmiths seem to wear.

      Question: was it ever established how Link's "hammer space" works in-universe?


      Nope. But to add to Thanatos-Zero's answer, we know that the Minish, who seem to be capable of changing the sizes and masses of things, were at one point allies of the Hylian Royal Family. Obviously, the answer is that they created a method for shrinking stuff when placed into a pouch, and restoring it upon retrieval. That was so useful that the Hylians adopted it themselves. Hyrule's Last Hero doesn't use them because, well, dark age.
    • Excellent addition Darth Yoshi.. ehm I mean Jedi Master Sagan.
      Since no one bothered to ask, I will state the next question.

      Question: The Era of Chaos discribed in Hyrule Historia sounds alot like the backstory narrated by the Spirit of Light Lanaryu about the fight for the Triforce, which caused a civil war.

      Is there more evidence, which heavly suggests that the backstory told in Twilight Princess and the Era of Chaos from HH are one and the same event in Hyrule's History?

      Sorry, if the question sounds odd.^^'

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    • @Thanatos

      There is evidence that suggests that they are the same, or at least, took place in close proximity.

      Both stories begin by briefly recounting the creation of Hyrule by the gods. Then they both say that the world knew peace for many years. Then they both tell of a conflict that stirred up among them that had to do with obtaining power. The people fought and killed one another.

      The Era of Chaos's description specifically says that word of the Triforce began to spread, and the people became greedy and fought over the Triforce. It also implies that the Triforce was still within Hyrule itself.

      Lanayru is more vague; the English version says that word of the Sacred Realm spread. However, the Japanese version just says that rivalry ensued over Hyrule, which in itself is considered to be a "sacred realm", or "holy land" if you will. Hyrule Historia agrees with the Japanese:

      [QUOTE=Hyrule Historia, page 113, The History Of The Twilight Realm]Before long, however, conflict began to arise in the sacred realm called Hyrule.[/QUOTE]

      What is it about Hyrule that led people to kill one another? I don't know for sure, but the imagery seems to suggest that the conflict was over the Triforce:



      Link, as we see here, has just killed Ilia and is shown running lustfully towards the Triforce.

      Then of course, we have the "interlopers", who appear out of nowhere and corrupt Link.

      What makes me think the two events are related is what is shown after the Interlopers are banished:



      We are shown the same meadow that was seen in the beginning of Lanayru's narrative, but the Triforce is now missing. I kind of think this symbolizes the sealing of the Triforce in the Sacred Realm.

      The way that Lanayru's story is told kind of makes it seem as though the Interloper War was Hyrule's first major conflict since the ending of Skyward Sword.

      However, as demonstrated in ALBW's prologue, it's certainly possible that Lanayru's narrative spans several eras and several events were combined into one. In other words, just because Lanayru mentioned the creation of Hyrule before talking about the war doesn't necessarily mean that the Interloper War was the first major thing to happen since the creation(aside from what we saw in SS, of course). There are details and major events that could have been left out. It's possible that the war occurred in a completely different era than the Era of Chaos, but they just don't say that because it's not relevant to the point Lanayru was trying to get across.

      It is my personal opinion that the Interloper War was, at the very least, a part of the Fierce War that was said to have "raged unabated for countless eras.".
      HA! GOT 'EM!

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    • ASBW wrote:

      @Thanatos

      There is evidence that suggests that they are the same, or at least, took place in close proximity.

      Both stories begin by briefly recounting the creation of Hyrule by the gods. Then they both say that the world knew peace for many years. Then they both tell of a conflict that stirred up among them that had to do with obtaining power. The people fought and killed one another.

      The Era of Chaos's description specifically says that word of the Triforce began to spread, and the people became greedy and fought over the Triforce. It also implies that the Triforce was still within Hyrule itself.

      Lanayru is more vague; the English version says that word of the Sacred Realm spread. However, the Japanese version just says that rivalry ensued over Hyrule, which in itself is considered to be a "sacred realm", or "holy land" if you will. Hyrule Historia agrees with the Japanese:



      What is it about Hyrule that led people to kill one another? I don't know for sure, but the imagery seems to suggest that the conflict was over the Triforce:



      Link, as we see here, has just killed Ilia and is shown running lustfully towards the Triforce.

      Then of course, we have the "interlopers", who appear out of nowhere and corrupt Link.

      What makes me think the two events are related is what is shown after the Interlopers are banished:



      We are shown the same meadow that was seen in the beginning of Lanayru's narrative, but the Triforce is now missing. I kind of think this symbolizes the sealing of the Triforce in the Sacred Realm.

      The way that Lanayru's story is told kind of makes it seem as though the Interloper War was Hyrule's first major conflict since the ending of Skyward Sword.

      However, as demonstrated in ALBW's prologue, it's certainly possible that Lanayru's narrative spans several eras and several events were combined into one. In other words, just because Lanayru mentioned the creation of Hyrule before talking about the war doesn't necessarily mean that the Interloper War was the first major thing to happen since the creation(aside from what we saw in SS, of course). There are details and major events that could have been left out. It's possible that the war occurred in a completely different era than the Era of Chaos, but they just don't say that because it's not relevant to the point Lanayru was trying to get across.

      It is my personal opinion that the Interloper War was, at the very least, a part of the Fierce War that was said to have "raged unabated for countless eras.".

      I was under the impression that conflicts over the Triforce occured every now and then. The Interloper conflict was one of these conflicts. HH gives the following timeline: era of chaos / Rauru builds Temple of Time -> TMC -> FS -> Fierce War -> OOT (until Link is defeated) -> sealing of Ganon -> another Triforce conflict -> Seal War -> ALTTP -> golden age -> sleeping Zelda -> many Triforce conflicts.

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    • Ganon Vader wrote:

      I was under the impression that conflicts over the Triforce occured every now and then. The Interloper conflict was one of these conflicts. HH gives the following timeline: era of chaos / Rauru builds Temple of Time -> TMC -> FS -> Fierce War -> OOT (until Link is defeated) -> sealing of Ganon -> another Triforce conflict -> Seal War -> ALTTP -> golden age -> sleeping Zelda -> many Triforce conflicts.


      Did you really have to quote my entire post to make that little tiny reply? :P

      The Interloper War couldn't have occurred after the sealing of Ganon, as he doesn't get sealed on the Child Timeline. He does get sent to the Twilight Realm, but Hyrule Historia specifically says that there was peace in between the time that Ganondorf was sent to the TR and when Zant invaded Hyrule.

      [QUOTE=Hyrule Historia, page 114, The King Of Twilight, Zant, Invades The Light World]The peace that had reigned in the Light World for hundreds of yeas was broken by Zant's army of Shadow Beasts.[/QUOTE]

      Of course, Sleeping Zelda doesn't happen on the Child Timeline either, so we can cross that out as well as the events that happen after that.

      Judging by the presence of the Mirror of Twilight in Ganondorf's execution (which only took place a few years after OoT's child ending), we can infer that the war took place before Ocarina of Time.

      Also, the fact that the Triforce had already been split by the time Ganondorf was executed means that if the people were in fact, fighting over the Triforce, then it would have had to be before Link arrived on the Child Timeline, or else they would have been fighting over nothing.

      Thus, out of all those things you posted, it could either be during the Fierce War, or Era of Chaos. Or any period in between the two.
      HA! GOT 'EM!

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