Zelda turns 25!

Develop Online got the chance to interview the man in charge of the Zelda series, Eiji Aonuma.  Aside from discussing the Zelda series itself and how it has lasted for a quarter of a century, they asked him what it was like to work in Shigeru Miyamoto’s shadow, and how he has stayed motivated after leading the series for the past fourteen years.  Read on to get some insights into the mind of the genius that brought us all major Zelda console titles since Ocarina of Time.

Develop Online:  “Why does the Zelda series still resonate with the public after 25 years?”

Eiji Aonuma:  “I think it’s because Zelda doesn’t fit into any gaming genre perfectly.  Really what we’ve always aimed for is not about fitting one particular game genre, but to keep providing unique experiences that people can enjoy.

“Of course, there are certain techniques and certain basics that are similar throughout the series, but really what we are striving to do with each new Zelda is offer a new world for people to enjoy and to experience.

“Over those 25 years, while we’ve been working on the Zelda series and creating the games, we’ve always had a wealth of ideas, and as we’ve worked there’s always been a surplus of new ideas, which I think is what has kept us going all these years.”

DO:  “So how do you filter those ideas so as to make sure each Zelda game meets the quality bar?”

Aonuma:  “Perhaps it is a little bit strange for me to just say good things about my staff, but it really is about the team.  I have a team of superb artists, engineers, creators and everything else, and Mr. Kondo and his sound team are very talented and strong.

“People have a lot of ideas of their own, but we are very strict with ourselves.

“Working with those people, everyone is striving to make each Zelda game better than the last one, focussing on making something more and more polished.

“My role in this process now is to really just create the basic grounding for these creative people to allow them to really flourish and really show their potential.”

DO:  “And how do you keep yourself and those staff creatively motivated and enthusiastic when the Zelda series has been around for so long?”

Aonuma:  “My staff really are driven and kept motivated by the idea of seeing the players enjoy their creations.  That is what I try and make them strive for and that is why they invest part of their life over many years into these games.

“In my case, for me it is about impressing Mr. Miyamoto; that’s the big one and that’s what keeps me motivated.”

Eiji Aonuma, lead of the Zelda series

DO:  “How have you used your previous experience making Zelda titles to make Skyward Sword a better game?”

Aonuma:  “The development of Skyward Sword, I would say, started with reflection on Twilight Princess with a view to try and fix lots of the things that we felt weren’t perfect.

Twilight Princess was a very big environment, and what we were really aiming for was realness; we wanted to have this real world experience.  Looking back I feel that it was maybe too big and there were maybe not enough things in the environment for players to enjoy and challenge.

“Looking back at Twilight Princess, my determination and my aim with the new Zelda was to make the game not only big and the environment very large, but to offer many experiences along the way as people journey through the world.  This is why there are three big areas on the surface and the huge town Skyloft.  Even when you revisit areas all over the environment there are new experiences and themes that can help the player connect their memories through the game and let them get to know the world more deeply.”

DO:  “Was there an overarching design theme or idea that directed the game’s development?”

Aonuma:  “Where Twilight Princess was about realness, this time it is really about bringing the game’s areas to life; to make players understand and feel the history behind the game, and to deepen the feeling of experiencing it.”

DO:  “And does working in the shadow of the success of Ocarina of Time concern you?”

Aonuma:  “Of course, I wouldn’t deny that I am always aware of the game and the praise it has received, and how much people like the game.

“On the other hand, I do believe that all the Zelda games since have offered new aspects to the gameplay and setting.

“We just recently did the 3DS version of Ocarina where we changed some things, and there were still difficulties.

“Even with that version of the game there were things we could improve upon.  One big issue we have dealt with is the saving system, where now you do not have to start the game over from the start point.”

Link and Sheik make music

DO:  “So does bettering Ocarina motivate you?”

Aonuma:  “Yes, absolutely.  But it’s not only Ocarina of Time.  We look at every past Zelda title in the franchise, with a view to make people realise that the game has grown and improved. This is what we are aiming for with every release. ”

DO:  “What is most core to the Zelda experience?  What is so sacred to the series it could never be changed?”

Aonuma:  “Well. Zelda has to be in the title. That’s something we could never change [much laughter].

“That’s not everything though. There’s something that makes even the most distinct Zelda games feel similar in spirit.

“Many people ask about that ‘Zelda-ness’, and I think Mr. Miyamoto would say the same as me.  What makes a game a Zelda game is the theme of uniqueness that we strive for.

“A Zelda game should never be similar to anything else or resemble other games.  This is always what we aim for, and that striving for uniqueness is the common denominator across the series.”

An 8-bit princess

It’s no secret that Aonuma’s source of motivation is in striving to impress Miyamoto–remember when Miyamoto reportedly “threatened” to end the Zelda series if Skyward Sword wasn’t the greatest title yet?  Summing up both the interview and the essence of The Legend of Zelda itself by quoting Mr. Aonuma:  “A Zelda game should never be similar to anything else or resemble other games.”  All things aside, Zelda is definitely unique among games, and certainly among legends.

Source:  Develop Online.
  • Well, until Zelda gets a genre of its own, I'm going to categorize it as Unique.

    • Jarmihi

      What, you've never heard of the genre, "Zelda"? 😛

      • Daniel G.

        Indeed. I am reminded of way back when StarFox Adventures came out, people were saying it was "Zelda-style." I think such comparisons are often made even now.

  • BlackOwlDog

    “Well. Zelda has to be in the title. That’s something we could never change." That seriously made me lol.

  • ZoraMikau

    Zelda is unique. I don't think it will ever resemble something else, and I don't think any game could exactly resemble it. It's just a legend few of us are going to forget some time soon.

  • sc100

    I'd like to impress Miyamoto too.

    • Karadom

      Better yet, I'd love to have him as a dad. Just imagine getting "the talk" from him. It'd be awesome!

      • zelda4ever

        No daddy, not the CD-i games!

  • Topaz Mutiny

    Hehe, I always knew uniqueness was a core part of what makes Zelda, Zelda. I was already believing that it was since all of the games looked and played uniquely, even amongst eachother. It's always been a Zelda "thing" to near constantly change the look, change the feel, and yet still feel eerily similar.

    I also find it hilarious Aonuma says it doesn't really fit into any one particular genre, since people STILL argue about it. XD

  • I am Miyamoto.

  • AJ12811

    thumbsup who want to develop games with nintendo

  • Merq

    The submit news thingie doesn't seem to be working for me, (unless it does and just looks like it doesn't), so let's try this here, maybe someone will see it:

    Several Zelda Symphony dates for North America announced. The last post on the subject mentions maybe half of them. http://zelda-symphony.com/schedule

  • Guest

    "One big issue we have dealt with is the saving system, where now you do not have to start the game over from the start point.”

    I don't know if I understand what he means, I still start at Link's House or the Temple of Time when I save and quit on the 3DS version.

    • Jarmihi

      Ah, I do believe he means that starting from Skyward Sword.